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Hot Rod
Member Sat Jan 29 03:02:21

Hawaii Bill Would Charge $100 for Obama Birth Certificate

Jan 28, 2011 â?? 12:11 PM

Americans who still doubt that President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii may soon have access to a copy of his birth record, but it will cost them.

Tired of requests from so-called "birthers" asking to see Obama's birth certificate -- and hoping to make a dent in the state's projected $800 million budget deficit -- state legislators have proposed a bill that would offer a copy of the coveted document to anyone who asks and charge a $100 fee.

"If it passes, it will calm the birthers down," Rep. Rida Cabanilla said, according to The Associated Press. "All these people are still doubting it because they don't want the birth certificate from Obama. They want it from our state office."

Obama issued a certificate of live birth during his 2008 campaign, an official state document confirming that he was born on Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu. But for the next two years, Hawaii health officials continued to receive phone calls and e-mail requests asking for the records directly from the state, mostly from people who say they suspect Obama was born in Kenya or Indonesia and is therefore ineligible to be president.

Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie has said he wants to end the controversy by offering access to the birth record. But Hawaii cannot release it because of the state's privacy laws, something the proposed legislation, if enacted, would change.

The bill was introduced by Democratic legislators in Hawaii, who said they hoped it would have the added effect of bringing a little money into the state.

"If the people are so concerned about Barack Obama and if he was actually born in Hawaii, born in the United States, let them pay a fee of 100 bucks," said Rep. John Mizuno, according to KHON2 News in Hawaii. "We can certainly use the money, and we don't need to hear their complaining anymore."

Two years into Obama's presidency, birther conspiracy theories about his place of birth have abated somewhat, but continue to generate political controversy. Earlier this month, Minnesota radio host Mike Evans said he was a friend of Abercrombie's and claimed the governor told him he couldn't find Obama's birth records. Later, though, Evans said he "misspoke" and apologized.

http://www...aing|main5|dl1|sec1_lnk1|39975

Hot Rod
Member Sat Jan 29 08:44:59
ttt

john stark
Member Sat Jan 29 08:48:00
Problem is I doubt most birthers could come up with a hundred bucks.

Hot Rod
Member Sat Jan 29 08:52:32

True, but I thought some of the rich liberals might want one so they can frame it as a souvenir.

CrownRoyal
Member Sat Jan 29 09:19:38
What would anybody do with Obama's birth certificate, really? Except for the sad rightwing retards, nobody needs it. Put it on toilet paper, then I might have a use for it.

Hot Rod
Member Sat Jan 29 09:25:40

Chris Matthews will probably buy one and hang it in his bathroom so he can get that "tingly sensation" whenever the pee runs down his leg.

Average Ameriacn
Member Sat Jan 29 09:36:16
What is this all about? Who can seriously doubt that Oabama has been born??

Hellfire
Member Sat Jan 29 09:41:27
Screw that, charge them $1000 or even $10,000

Hot Rod
Member Sat Jan 29 09:52:11

AA, I have never doubted that he was born in America.

earthpig
GTFO HOer Sun Jan 30 01:59:15
ha. kind of rad.

Cthulhu
Tentacle Rapist Sun Jan 30 19:16:34
'But Hawaii cannot release it because of the state's privacy laws, something the proposed legislation, if enacted, would change. '

There you have it, worthless political posturing.

Cthulhu
Tentacle Rapist Sun Jan 30 19:16:52
never mind, read that real wrong.

milton bradley
Member Sun Jan 30 23:31:17
"AA, I have never doubted that he was born in America."

Oh thats right. You believe he stole the birth certificate from a dead child to hide something, though you're not sure what it is he's hiding. This is supposed to be less pathetic? lol...

the archivist
Member Sun Jan 30 23:57:50
Hot Rod
Member Sun Aug 02 11:35:42

Prove that is Obama's BC.

End of discussion.

Hot Rod
Member Mon Aug 03 00:00:52

hoer - HR, what you just did was publically refuse to look at photographic evidence that disproves you.

How can you sit there and post such an obvious falsehood.

I looked at what you posted.

All I see is a seal.

There is nothing there to prove it is applied to an Obama BC.

http://www...on_obama_birth_certificate.jpg

ABSOLUTELY MY LAST WORD.

http://www.utopiaforums.com/boardthread?id=politics&thread=21429&showdeleted=true

Hot Rod
Member Wed Aug 04 22:36:21
50 years ago if you wanted to change your identity you found a birth announcement from about the time you were born. One where the child died within a year or two in another state.

You then got a BC and started building your new identity from that. It took some research, but it wasn't too hard.

Hot Rod
Member Wed Aug 04 22:45:48
"50 years ago if you wanted to change your identity you found a birth announcement from about the time you were born. One where the child died within a year or two in another state.

You then got a BC and started building your new identity from that. It took some research, but it wasn't too hard."

Hot Rod
Member Fri Aug 06 07:37:38
patom, not necessarily.

"50 years ago if you wanted to change your identity you found a birth announcement from about the time you were born. One where the child died within a year or two in another state.

You then got a BC and started building your new identity from that. It took some research, but it wasn't too hard."

Hot Rod
Member Fri Aug 06 20:28:59
Why must ever single word be take literally?

50 years, 55 years, 45 years. During that time, give or take a decade or two... It was not that hard to create a false ID. A simple point of information.

Jesus.

BTW, the mother and father knew some rich and powerful people back then, who knows what kind of conspiracy they might have cooked up.

http://www.utopiaforums.com/boardthread?id=politics&thread=37334&time=1281459380490

Hot Rod
Member Sat Dec 13 12:06:10

Let me write Obama and find out where he got his birth certificate.

Maybe I can get a death certificate on the cheap.

http://www.utopiaforums.com/boardthread?id=politics&thread=10011

Hot Rod
Member Fri Aug 14 09:15:46

What I said was that in my ***OPINION*** the BC that was presented to the public did not look authentic to me.

Hot Rod
Member Mon Jan 31 00:09:09

Why didn't you post the two or three dozen times I emphatically said I believe that he was born here?

I played Devil's Advocate on occasion and that is what you see in those out of context quotes.

"What I said was that in my ***OPINION*** the BC that was presented to the public did not look authentic to me."

But, I never doubted his citizenship.

miltonfriedman
Member Mon Jan 31 00:09:31
Thank you, good sir, for digging up more of Pedo Rod's gems.

What's truly amazing is that Pedo Rod actually thought he could lie about what he has said and could get away with it.

miltonfriedman
Member Mon Jan 31 00:12:41
"I played Devil's Advocate on occasion"

lulz at pedo rod trying to cover up his lies.

Hot Rod
Member Mon Jan 31 03:49:57

Just exactly *where* do I say that Obama is *NOT A CITIZEN* of The United States?

Where?

Don't you people ever get tired of distorting the truth?

the archivist
Member Mon Jan 31 03:56:21
Hot Rod
Member Tue Nov 04 08:18:11

So What?

Obama was born in Kenya, and his parents were *NOT* in the military.

http://www...thread?id=politics&thread=7119

Milton Asgard
Member Mon Jan 31 04:09:26
I seriously wonder if the home hotrod lives in is in fact a mental hospital.

Hot Rod
Member Mon Jan 31 04:24:22

I believe that is from 2009 and I do not recall saying it though I obviously did. Obviously I have no idea what was going through my mind at the time.

BUT, at this point in time and for quite some time now *I have been thoroughly convinced* that Obama is an American citizen.

But, I still question the birth certificate he presented to the world. My bc shows my parents names, where they were born the doctor's signature and a great deal of other information.

Based on that I question Obama's BC, but of course Hawaii's requirements may be different.

That does not change the fact that I am now thoroughly convinced that he is a citizen.

Satisfied?

Milton Asgard
Member Mon Jan 31 04:34:14
"I seriously wonder if the home hotrod lives in is in fact a mental hospital. "

freaky boy
Member Mon Jan 31 04:36:20
I'd pay $100 for pics of his daughters in the bath

Clitoral Hood
The Bloody Scourge Mon Jan 31 04:50:27
seek help.

I'm not sure if that applies better to HR or freaky.

freaky boy
Member Mon Jan 31 04:58:17
ok, do you know where I can get pics of obamas daughters in the bath???

Hot Rod
Member Mon Jan 31 05:06:10

Milton Asgard, go fuck yourself with a corncob.

Milton Asgard
Member Mon Jan 31 05:09:09
hot lying mental case, go fuck your mom with a corncob.

Clitoral Hood
The Bloody Scourge Mon Jan 31 13:16:49
freaky, that isn't quite what I meant. >.>

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Hot Rod Member	Sat Jan 29 03:02:21 Hawaii Bill Would Charge $100 for Obama Birth Certificate Jan 28, 2011 â?? 12:11 PM Americans who still doubt that President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii may soon have access to a copy of his birth record, but it will cost them. Tired of requests from so-called "birthers" asking to see Obama's birth certificate -- and hoping to make a dent in the state's projected $800 million budget deficit -- state legislators have proposed a bill that would offer a copy of the coveted document to anyone who asks and charge a $100 fee. "If it passes, it will calm the birthers down," Rep. Rida Cabanilla said, according to The Associated Press. "All these people are still doubting it because they don't want the birth certificate from Obama. They want it from our state office." Obama issued a certificate of live birth during his 2008 campaign, an official state document confirming that he was born on Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu. But for the next two years, Hawaii health officials continued to receive phone calls and e-mail requests asking for the records directly from the state, mostly from people who say they suspect Obama was born in Kenya or Indonesia and is therefore ineligible to be president. Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie has said he wants to end the controversy by offering access to the birth record. But Hawaii cannot release it because of the state's privacy laws, something the proposed legislation, if enacted, would change. The bill was introduced by Democratic legislators in Hawaii, who said they hoped it would have the added effect of bringing a little money into the state. "If the people are so concerned about Barack Obama and if he was actually born in Hawaii, born in the United States, let them pay a fee of 100 bucks," said Rep. John Mizuno, according to KHON2 News in Hawaii. "We can certainly use the money, and we don't need to hear their complaining anymore." Two years into Obama's presidency, birther conspiracy theories about his place of birth have abated somewhat, but continue to generate political controversy. Earlier this month, Minnesota radio host Mike Evans said he was a friend of Abercrombie's and claimed the governor told him he couldn't find Obama's birth records. Later, though, Evans said he "misspoke" and apologized. http://www...aing\|main5\|dl1\|sec1_lnk1\|39975
Hot Rod Member	Sat Jan 29 08:44:59 ttt
john stark Member	Sat Jan 29 08:48:00 Problem is I doubt most birthers could come up with a hundred bucks.
Hot Rod Member	Sat Jan 29 08:52:32 True, but I thought some of the rich liberals might want one so they can frame it as a souvenir.
CrownRoyal Member	Sat Jan 29 09:19:38 What would anybody do with Obama's birth certificate, really? Except for the sad rightwing retards, nobody needs it. Put it on toilet paper, then I might have a use for it.
Hot Rod Member	Sat Jan 29 09:25:40 Chris Matthews will probably buy one and hang it in his bathroom so he can get that "tingly sensation" whenever the pee runs down his leg.
Average Ameriacn Member	Sat Jan 29 09:36:16 What is this all about? Who can seriously doubt that Oabama has been born??
Hellfire Member	Sat Jan 29 09:41:27 Screw that, charge them $1000 or even $10,000
Hot Rod Member	Sat Jan 29 09:52:11 AA, I have never doubted that he was born in America.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Sun Jan 30 01:59:15 ha. kind of rad.
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Sun Jan 30 19:16:34 'But Hawaii cannot release it because of the state's privacy laws, something the proposed legislation, if enacted, would change. ' There you have it, worthless political posturing.
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Sun Jan 30 19:16:52 never mind, read that real wrong.
milton bradley Member	Sun Jan 30 23:31:17 "AA, I have never doubted that he was born in America." Oh thats right. You believe he stole the birth certificate from a dead child to hide something, though you're not sure what it is he's hiding. This is supposed to be less pathetic? lol...
the archivist Member	Sun Jan 30 23:57:50 Hot Rod Member Sun Aug 02 11:35:42 Prove that is Obama's BC. End of discussion. Hot Rod Member Mon Aug 03 00:00:52 hoer - HR, what you just did was publically refuse to look at photographic evidence that disproves you. How can you sit there and post such an obvious falsehood. I looked at what you posted. All I see is a seal. There is nothing there to prove it is applied to an Obama BC. http://www...on_obama_birth_certificate.jpg ABSOLUTELY MY LAST WORD. http://www.utopiaforums.com/boardthread?id=politics&thread=21429&showdeleted=true Hot Rod Member Wed Aug 04 22:36:21 50 years ago if you wanted to change your identity you found a birth announcement from about the time you were born. One where the child died within a year or two in another state. You then got a BC and started building your new identity from that. It took some research, but it wasn't too hard. Hot Rod Member Wed Aug 04 22:45:48 "50 years ago if you wanted to change your identity you found a birth announcement from about the time you were born. One where the child died within a year or two in another state. You then got a BC and started building your new identity from that. It took some research, but it wasn't too hard." Hot Rod Member Fri Aug 06 07:37:38 patom, not necessarily. "50 years ago if you wanted to change your identity you found a birth announcement from about the time you were born. One where the child died within a year or two in another state. You then got a BC and started building your new identity from that. It took some research, but it wasn't too hard." Hot Rod Member Fri Aug 06 20:28:59 Why must ever single word be take literally? 50 years, 55 years, 45 years. During that time, give or take a decade or two... It was not that hard to create a false ID. A simple point of information. Jesus. BTW, the mother and father knew some rich and powerful people back then, who knows what kind of conspiracy they might have cooked up. http://www.utopiaforums.com/boardthread?id=politics&thread=37334&time=1281459380490 Hot Rod Member Sat Dec 13 12:06:10 Let me write Obama and find out where he got his birth certificate. Maybe I can get a death certificate on the cheap. http://www.utopiaforums.com/boardthread?id=politics&thread=10011 Hot Rod Member Fri Aug 14 09:15:46 What I said was that in my *OPINION* the BC that was presented to the public did not look authentic to me.
Hot Rod Member	Mon Jan 31 00:09:09 Why didn't you post the two or three dozen times I emphatically said I believe that he was born here? I played Devil's Advocate on occasion and that is what you see in those out of context quotes. "What I said was that in my *OPINION* the BC that was presented to the public did not look authentic to me." But, I never doubted his citizenship.
miltonfriedman Member	Mon Jan 31 00:09:31 Thank you, good sir, for digging up more of Pedo Rod's gems. What's truly amazing is that Pedo Rod actually thought he could lie about what he has said and could get away with it.
miltonfriedman Member	Mon Jan 31 00:12:41 "I played Devil's Advocate on occasion" lulz at pedo rod trying to cover up his lies.
Hot Rod Member	Mon Jan 31 03:49:57 Just exactly where do I say that Obama is NOT A CITIZEN of The United States? Where? Don't you people ever get tired of distorting the truth?
the archivist Member	Mon Jan 31 03:56:21 Hot Rod Member Tue Nov 04 08:18:11 So What? Obama was born in Kenya, and his parents were NOT in the military. http://www...thread?id=politics&thread=7119
Milton Asgard Member	Mon Jan 31 04:09:26 I seriously wonder if the home hotrod lives in is in fact a mental hospital.
Hot Rod Member	Mon Jan 31 04:24:22 I believe that is from 2009 and I do not recall saying it though I obviously did. Obviously I have no idea what was going through my mind at the time. BUT, at this point in time and for quite some time now I have been thoroughly convinced that Obama is an American citizen. But, I still question the birth certificate he presented to the world. My bc shows my parents names, where they were born the doctor's signature and a great deal of other information. Based on that I question Obama's BC, but of course Hawaii's requirements may be different. That does not change the fact that I am now thoroughly convinced that he is a citizen. Satisfied?
Milton Asgard Member	Mon Jan 31 04:34:14 "I seriously wonder if the home hotrod lives in is in fact a mental hospital. "
freaky boy Member	Mon Jan 31 04:36:20 I'd pay $100 for pics of his daughters in the bath
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Mon Jan 31 04:50:27 seek help. I'm not sure if that applies better to HR or freaky.
freaky boy Member	Mon Jan 31 04:58:17 ok, do you know where I can get pics of obamas daughters in the bath???
Hot Rod Member	Mon Jan 31 05:06:10 Milton Asgard, go fuck yourself with a corncob.
Milton Asgard Member	Mon Jan 31 05:09:09 hot lying mental case, go fuck your mom with a corncob.
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Mon Jan 31 13:16:49 freaky, that isn't quite what I meant. >.>
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