Utopia Talk / Politics / Hot Rod - Teddy Roosevelt

chen Member	Thu Nov 18 15:03:27 Continued from this thread because of some nazi mod: http://www...hread=40137&time=1290114115028 Why is TR a bad president?
ehcks Member	Thu Nov 18 15:05:10 Because the national park system is an excessive use of federal power? Something like that? That's the stupidest thing I could think of.
Aeros Member	Thu Nov 18 15:06:48 Because Glenn Beck say's so.
Aeros Member	Thu Nov 18 15:07:17 To repeat my post... Hot Rod is just parroting Glenn Beck. Glenn Beck is using Teddy as proof the Progressive conspiracy is far reaching into American history. It stands to reason Hot Rod, being the Beckwashed idiot he is, would have it out for Roosevelt's legacy.
chen Member	Thu Nov 18 15:08:01 Then why does beck think TR is a bad president?
chen Member	Thu Nov 18 15:11:39 It just boggles my mind that a president whose policies laid the grounds for us to become a world power while making sure average americans had reasonable working conditions would be the worst president.
ehcks Member	Thu Nov 18 15:14:39 I wonder where Lincoln fits on Hot Rod's list of "bad presidents".
Aeros Member	Thu Nov 18 15:19:20 That's exactly it Chen. In Glenn Becks world, any effort by the Government to effect meaningful social reform is part of a Progressive plot to destroy America. Food Safety Standards, Occupational Safety Standards, Anti-monopoly enforcement, The National Park Service, Endangered Species Protection, all of it, is Government interference among the individual States and individual citizens. As such, they are unacceptable. In Becks world, the Free Market will prevent Monopolies, enforce food standards, and if workers die on the Job, they should have picked a different Job.
miltonfriedman Member	Thu Nov 18 15:29:30 This is too big of an issue for Pedo Rod to tackle. I am sure he will send his spokesperson Kargen to make a statement soon.
chen Member	Thu Nov 18 16:28:36 "In Glenn Becks world, any effort by the Government to effect meaningful social reform is part of a Progressive plot to destroy America." You can complain about some of the recent movements all you want as many of them seem nonsensical. However, history has clearly proven that the national park service, basic food safety, anti-trust laws, the panama canal are better for the country than nothing. We could have easily lost world war II if not for the panama canal that allowed for easy military movement between theaters. If it weren't for anti-trust laws someone with an eighth grade education wouldn't be able to afford to retire, let alone afford a computer. Once food began to be policed on an even basic level lifespans increased by a decade or more meaning said poster would no longer be with us. There's some level of stupidity that you just shake your head at and walk away, but this goes beyond anything stupid posted by a guy who isn't blatantly trolling.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Nov 18 16:31:30 "He is noted for his energetic personality, range of interests and achievements, leadership of the Progressive Movement..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teddy_roosevelt
chen Member	Thu Nov 18 16:32:34 Ok... You quoted the wiki page is that your argument?
Hot Rod Member	Thu Nov 18 16:39:23 He was the first President to be involved in The Progressive Movement. If you think Wiki is lying about that then go stick your head in the sand and hide from the truth. Damn man, what kind of proof do you want? His signed confession in blood that he promoted big government?
chen Member	Thu Nov 18 16:49:29 One word in the wiki page isn't an argument. Tell me what's wrong with his accomplishments besides the retarded 'progressives are evil' shit. He did increase government, yes, but history has proven expansion at a basic level to be a good thing for a number of reasons. You're lumping in progressives of 100 years ago to be the same as progressives of today which is as idiotic as saying a Republican in the 1860s is the same as a Republican in the 1960s. If it weren't for some expansion of government there would be no need for any amendments in the constitution. We might as well just live under a feudal system where a human being owns many others as property. Back your argument up by refuting his many accomplishments. If him being progressive is really that bad you should be able to provide some evidence besides the second sentence of his wiki page.
Dakyron Member	Thu Nov 18 16:53:52 There was little wrong with Teddy Roosevelt's presidency.
Hot Stick Member	Thu Nov 18 16:58:50 When Beck covers his flaws in more detail I will parrot his arguments to you but I can't be expected to go into things beck hasn't said yet.
Karl Hungus Member	Thu Nov 18 17:01:54 I fuck you!
Hot Rod Member	Thu Nov 18 17:22:47 chen, if you do not know what the progressive movement is and where it is leading us there is no sense talking to you about it. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step ~Confucius Roosevelt was that 'single' step. Just look what it led to when FDR was in office a few decades later or look at where we are today. I realize you people would like nothing better than the government teat from cradle to grave, but some of us would rather follow Reagan. "We've gone astray from first principles. We've lost sight of the rule that individual freedom and ingenuity are at the very core of everything that we've accomplished. Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." ~President Ronald Reagan I really pity you people, but I pity more the individual that you will drag kicking and screaming into your Progressive Hell.
Aeros Member	Thu Nov 18 17:26:25 "chen, if you do not know what the progressive movement is and where it is leading us there is no sense talking to you about it." Clearly you don't either, since its the only reason your senile old ass is still alive right now.
chen Member	Thu Nov 18 18:02:48 "chen, if you do not know what the progressive movement is and where it is leading us there is no sense talking to you about it." So it boils down to "I know this grand conspiracy that is destroying our country but I can't give you details about it. What I can do is point out that the word progressive is actually evil as they want us to progress to some kind of a dictatorship and ruin everything we hold dear. WHY DIDNT WE LISTEN TO REAGAN WHY?!?!?!?!" Instead of actually pointing out what's wrong with his policies individually you hold the policies against him that were implemented long after he passed away. Why not attack that progressive fuck washington who believed in radical ideas like term limits and no political parties and no entangling alliances? And you wonder why you're a laughingstock.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Nov 18 18:31:02 chen - So it boils down to "I know this grand conspiracy that is destroying our country but I can't give you details about it. What I can do is point out that the word progressive is actually evil as they want us to progress to some kind of a dictatorship and ruin everything we hold dear. It is not a conspiracy, it is a different POV. The cradle to grave teat VS \ Individual freedoms. Your progressivism will fail when you run out of OPM (Other Peoples Money.) All you will have left is feudalism at the point of a gun. You really should study up on the Progressives to find out what their goals and motives are. I have no desire to try to teach an iron ball.
Madc0w Member	Thu Nov 18 18:35:37 What did Teddy Roosevelt do during his presidency that was bad? Which policies of his were bad?
Hot Rod Member	Thu Nov 18 18:43:54 Go read a book.
Madc0w Member	Thu Nov 18 18:45:26 Which policies of Teddy Roosevelt's made him the worst president?
Milton Bradley Member	Thu Nov 18 18:48:30 He can't answer that question because he doesn't know why he doesn't like TR. All he knows is a fox news speaker disliked him and that is good enough for him.
Madc0w Member	Thu Nov 18 18:53:10 "Go read a book. " This does not answer my question, btw.
miltonfriedman Member	Thu Nov 18 18:57:25 why not? "go watch news" and "google it yourself" have been a staple in Retard Rod's "counterargument." This has been confirmed by Retard Rod's spokesperson Kargen.
Canadian Member	Thu Nov 18 19:28:45 "The cradle to grave teat" - Not TR. In fact, TR was a rugged individualist that believed that men should go out and do things like backpack in the woods and shoot Cubans.
ehcks Member	Thu Nov 18 19:41:09 Your argument against Teddy Roosevelt is based entirely around the word "progressive"? A word no one used to describe him during his presidency? You know, most people consider the antonym regressive to be a far worse word.
Aeros Member	Thu Nov 18 21:12:31 Its sad really, the extent to which this new breed of Reactionary Republicans are willing to revise history to conform to their ideological mold. The three biggest revisions are of course... 1. Teddy Roosevelt was a horrible President 2. The Progressive movement of the late 19th and early 20th century was not justified, or even needed. 3. Joe McCarthy was not an idiot fear monger drunk on power, but a patriot who was ferreting out Commie traitors. I could go on, but those are the big three that come to mind. I have no complaints with disliking more modern reforms and "progression". But to outright to slander one of our greatest Presidents and a movement that did more to bring equality and justice to the American system in a period of grave inequality and injustice is a disservice to our history, and the people who made it happen.
Dakyron Member	Thu Nov 18 22:41:42 The 1900s era progressive movement had such controversial ideas as women should have the right to vote, women should be treated equally, children shouldnt have to work 14 hours a day in factories, there should be cleanliness standards in meat processing plants, etc... Clearly these early progressives were horrible pieces of shit. The fact that this thread doesnt surprise me in the slightest should be the biggest insult to Hot Rod, you know... if he were capable of understanding the depth of that insult.
Hot Rod Member	Fri Nov 19 01:21:41 Dak, your opinion is inconsequential. You guys don't get it. Certainly there were injustices during that period that needed to be addressed. But they needed to be addressed with objective laws designed to protect the rights of the individuals within those groups. They did not need to spawn the massive bureaucratic welfare state we see today.
Madc0w Member	Fri Nov 19 01:47:41 In what way did Teddy Roosevelt spawn "the massive bureaucratic welfare state we see today"?
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Nov 19 02:17:10 Always love when Rod laments " Bureaucratic welfare state". Never mind that it is the only thing between him and begging for food on the streets.
Milton Bradley Member	Fri Nov 19 05:30:52 As always...lol@someone trying to debate with HR
Hot Rod Member	Fri Nov 19 06:22:17 CR, that old saw is as lame as the pedo "jokes".
Milton Bradley Member	Fri Nov 19 06:33:35 If only they were jokes. Poor children.
CrownRoyal Member	Fri Nov 19 06:37:35 That's why I said "always", Rod. Your anti big government rhetoric never fails to amuse.
Hot Rod Member	Fri Nov 19 06:38:35 If only you had a brain Tin Man.
Aeros Member	Fri Nov 19 06:51:49 Rod, lets make it simple. Pick on policy decision by Theodore Roosevelt, and explain what was so horrible about it and how its horribleness effects us today.
Aeros Member	Fri Nov 19 06:51:59 *one policy decision
Hot Rod Jackson Member	Fri Nov 19 06:59:37 'If only you had a brain Tin Man. ' God you're insufferably stupid. It's scarecrow that needed a brain you fucking imbecile. Tin Man needed a heart.
Hot Rod Member	Fri Nov 19 07:18:40 HRJ, So it was. I'm just amazed that you have even one single fact straight in your diminutive little brain. Aeros, I am not going to debate Roosevelt's shortcomings with you, it would be an exercise in futility. Go read up on him yourself and use Ben Franklyn's formula for decision making. Draw a line down the middle of a sheet of paper. On one side list his actions that promotes the rights of the individual, on the other side list the action that promote government growth. See which list is the longer.
ehcks Member	Fri Nov 19 07:27:19 Why should we do the work that you're claiming you've already done? Why should we learn what you say you know? Is it because you're lying? I think it's because you're lying.
Milton Bradley Member	Fri Nov 19 07:28:17 Thought so, you got nothing but a head full of shit instead of brains. Damn you are stupid.
Milton Bradley Member	Fri Nov 19 07:28:49 @ Hot 'brain dead' Rod
Milton Bradley Member	Fri Nov 19 07:44:52 "Aeros, I am not going to debate Roosevelt's shortcomings with you, it would be an exercise in futility. " Beck hasn't told him what to say on this issue so he has to dodge the debate somehow.
Dakyron Member	Fri Nov 19 08:58:37 "Dak, your opinion is inconsequential. " LOL. That wasnt opinion, it was fact. Those are the sorts of things the early "progressives" advocated and advanced. So either you are a lying idiot(very plausible) or you are a sexist, racist, child hating old fart(also plausible).
Hot Rod Member	Fri Nov 19 09:32:48 Learn to read Dak. There was more than one sentence to my post stupid. "Dak, your opinion is inconsequential. You guys don't get it. Certainly there were injustices during that period that needed to be addressed. But they needed to be addressed with objective laws designed to protect the rights of the individuals within those groups. They did not need to spawn the massive bureaucratic welfare state we see today."
Dakyron Member	Fri Nov 19 09:45:41 The massive beauracratic welfare state was spawned by FRANKLIN DELANOR ROOSEVELT, not Teddy Roosevelt. You are off by a few decades, Roddy.
Hot Rod Member	Fri Nov 19 09:59:55 Dak - The 1900s era progressive movement had such controversial ideas as women should have the right to vote, women should be treated equally, children shouldnt have to work 14 hours a day in factories, there should be cleanliness standards in meat processing plants, etc... Your words. Are you trying to tell us the solutions to these problems, implemented during that period, are not a part of our modern bureaucracy?
Dakyron Member	Fri Nov 19 10:02:38 "Are you trying to tell us the solutions to these problems, implemented during that period, are not a part of our modern bureaucracy? " "part of our modern bureaucracy" is a pretty vague statement. I suppose you could say that, but these solutions would be just a very small part of the bloated federal government. The department of labor and the FDA combined would account for a miniscule percentage of the federal budget. It was FDR who implemented welfare, social security, unemployment benefits, etc...
Hot Rod Member	Fri Nov 19 10:05:36 Dak - I suppose you could say that, but these solutions would be just a very small part of the bloated federal government. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step ~Confucius I rest my case.
Dakyron Member	Fri Nov 19 10:08:05 Like I said, you are a racist, sexist, child hating old fart then.
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Fri Nov 19 10:11:09 I don't get it. HR is hating on a republican. is this bizarro land?
Dakyron Member	Fri Nov 19 10:18:11 He doesnt like that T.R. gave women the right to vote and ended child slave labor. I guess. Who really knows what goes in Roddy's head.
Milton Bradley Member	Fri Nov 19 11:00:24 Does anything go on in his head? Doesn't he just parrot people he sees on TV? Which is why he can never debate anything.
Aeros Member	Fri Nov 19 11:09:22 Hot Rod also hates that George Soros helped end Communism in 4 countries. Passing strange, considering he "claims" he is not Communist. If that were true, then why does he support the causes of former Communist Dictatorships?
chen Member	Fri Nov 19 11:20:24 It's pretty sad that you get your entire world view from a televangelist. Reality has a well known liberal bias to the morons that watch the guy religiously. How about thinking for yourself instead of what a man in a box tells you to think? Get some facts and come back here or do the rest of us a favor and break your computer. Find an alternative news source that isn't propaganda or crack a book once in a while and maybe you'll better yourself. Reading your posts really exposes how important it is to stay in school. Beck - "Donate $50 to my cause and I'll protect you from the communists that hide under your bed at night."
miltonfriedman Member	Fri Nov 19 11:25:34 What's the point to continue establishing that Pedo Rod is a retarded troll? I am disappointed to see that there is a thread created to give pedo Rod a platform to do more trolling. He needs to be DoS'd, not to be engaged.
Milton Bradley Member	Fri Nov 19 11:34:30 Is he really a troll though? "In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response" He would be a troll if he was acting stupid. I don't think he is acting, Hot Rod is really this way.
miltonfriedman Member	Fri Nov 19 11:53:06 Good point. He is just a retard.
Madc0w Member	Fri Nov 19 12:20:33 Hot Rod, you never answered my question: In what way did Teddy Roosevelt spawn "the massive bureaucratic welfare state we see today"?
ehcks Member	Fri Nov 19 12:23:08 "'controversial ideas as women should have the right to vote, women should be treated equally, children shouldnt have to work 14 hours a day in factories, there should be cleanliness standards in meat processing plants, etc...' Are you trying to tell us the solutions to these problems, implemented during that period, are not a part of our modern bureaucracy?" So, because they are part of a "bureaucracy", those are bad things? You would prefer women be non-voting slaves, that children should be forced to work, and that we should eat diseased, rotting meat? You would be better off in early 14th century Europe, wouldn't you?
Firestorm Phoenix Member	Fri Nov 19 20:41:38 He'd like to return to the Dark Ages. Except he forgets that he'd be dead.
Milton Bradley Member	Sat Nov 20 11:05:09 The pedophile runs away.
chen Member	Sat Nov 20 14:24:43 Fox seems to have put a transmitter near his brain. It's the only thing keeping him alive at this point, and it keeps him brainwashed to the point that he's even turning on a republican. Run away, don't come back til you learn some facts.
Madc0w Member	Sat Nov 20 20:03:11 ttt for HR to answer my question
so what Member	Sun Nov 21 11:06:23 Madc0w Member Sat Nov 20 20:03:11 ttt for HR to answer my question -------- Give HR some slack, he's an old guy. He probably still uses a VCR to watch his Glenn Beck tapes. He needs more time.
Hot Rod Member	Sun Nov 21 11:08:31 MadCow, I answered your question. You are just too stupid to see it. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step ~Confucius
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Sun Nov 21 11:16:20 ^ meaningless quote, like most others you share.
ehcks Member	Sun Nov 21 11:17:53 Yes, Madc0w, Hot Rod has answered your question. He's against women's suffrage, against women's rights in general, for child labor, and against mandated food cleanliness. Because those are part of some "federal bureaucracy." He's either a stupid troll, or a believer that he'd be nobility in the New Dark Ages.
Nimatzo Member	Sun Nov 21 11:23:28 >>A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step ~Confucius<< This means nothing you fucking idiot. You could make a journey and then go too far. That doesn't mean the first step or the first 10 000 steps were in error. Why do you quote shit you don't understand? And then quote it over and over instead of giving a straight fucking answer?
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Sun Nov 21 11:39:29 he obviously doesn't have a straight fucking answer. he's doing his best to fight off a stroke.
Sam Adams Member	Sun Nov 21 11:51:27 how the fuck do you think tedy is a bad president? I think if you asked UP who was the best president ever, most people would agree on tedy. Dude was badass.
PhunkyPhishStyle Member	Sun Nov 21 11:53:41 "I think if you asked UP who was the best president ever, most people would agree on tedy. Dude was badass. " - I wouldn't agree with best ever, but I do agree he was a bad ass. He did some shit I don't agree with, but not nearly as much as some of the other presidents commonly revered.
ehcks Member	Sun Nov 21 11:59:10 Maybe not "best", but certainly the one I'd most like to meet. Who wouldn't want to go on a safari with that guy?
PhunkyPhishStyle Member	Sun Nov 21 12:03:57 ^ for instance, TR was quite the Hamiltonian imperialist. But that hardly makes him the worst president ever. We've had far, far worse. Here are some pretty awesome TR quotes: "A perfectly stupid race can never rise to a very high plane; the Negro, for instance, has been kept down as much by lack of intellectual development as by anything else." "The presence of the Negro is the real problem; slavery is merely the worst possible method of solving the problem." ^ lulz. Mark Twain on TR: "Clearly insane". haha.
NeverWoods Member	Sun Nov 21 13:04:10 Hot Rod is one sicking old man. I feel like have become a lesser of a man to have known a character like hot rod.
Hot Rod Member	Sun Nov 21 13:11:05 ehcks - He's against women's suffrage, against women's rights in general, for child labor, and against mandated food cleanliness. Because those are part of some "federal bureaucracy." You stupid ass, I answered that one too. Why is it you liberals are too stupid to understand a simple sentence the first time? "You guys don't get it. Certainly there were injustices during that period that needed to be addressed. But they needed to be addressed with objective laws designed to protect the rights of the individuals within those groups. They did not need to spawn the massive bureaucratic welfare state we see today."
ehcks Member	Sun Nov 21 13:17:04 Actually, no, you never said anything even broadly related to those things after you said them.
ehcks Member	Sun Nov 21 13:17:28 This is a forum, after all. I can go up and read what you wrote, or that you wrote nothing.
Hot Rod Member	Sun Nov 21 13:17:36 NeverWoods - Hot Rod is one sicking old man. I feel like have become a lesser of a man to have known a character like hot rod. You became a far lesser man than I will ever be when you decided to burn books of ideas just because you do not agree with like the stupid Nazi you are. ehcks - Who wouldn't want to go on a safari with that guy? I wouldn't. I don't believe in killing animals for sport. Guess you would love to go to a dog fight with Michael Vick too you stupid ass. Each one of your comments are more stupid than the others. I leave you to *yourselves*.
Hot God Member	Sun Nov 21 13:37:44 I would rather find human excrement in my burger, use an *American* Child Prostitution ring, fill in the Grand Canyon for a giant Walmart, work at that Walmart for $2 a day RATHER THAN live in this *Socialist* hellhole. You peopel just want handouts.
NeverWoods Member	Sun Nov 21 15:44:02 "You became a far lesser man than I will ever be when you decided to burn books of ideas just because you do not agree with like the stupid Nazi you are." Is that so, i have yet to burn any books but i will burn the hell out of a ayn rand any day of the time, and here is the kicker none will care. But here you are calling me a Nazi when you have said you will gladly be a Nazi, you will rape lite boys and that you want 1 billion of humans dead, what does that tell us about you? Which is worse a yet to be atlas shrugged burner or someone that is extremely hateful and probably a rapist too? You are the worst living man i know of, unlike every other forum joker here that says something like lets kill everyone are trolling but you on the other hand mean it. You are also very unintelligent i have yet to hear anything remotely intelligent coming from you, it would be one of the rare finds in this forums history. Next time just stay dead so we can all say good riddance to the filth of mankind.
Hot Rod Member	Sun Nov 21 16:11:15 ehcks - Actually, no, you never said anything even broadly related to those things after you said them. You stupid shit, I gave you the quote of what I said. Hell, even an iron ball would understand, "But they needed to be addressed with objective laws designed to protect the rights of the individuals within those groups." Now stop asking the same question over and over and over, ad nauseum. NeverWoods - But here you are calling me a Nazi when you have said you will gladly be a Nazi, you will rape lite boys and that you want 1 billion of humans dead, what does that tell us about you? You lying Nazi piece of shit, the only way you can even remotely reach my level is to use the lies and misquotes that have been made up about me. The difference is that you know they are lies and misquotes but, once again, you confess to being a book burning Nazi. And unlike you I do not wish you dead. I want you stay alive in order to remind folks of the evils of fascism.
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Sun Nov 21 16:21:15 there is a difference between burning personal property and calling for a mass burning of books.
Hot Rod Member	Sun Nov 21 16:24:37 Yeah, I know. Tell it to NeverWoods. "but i will burn the hell out of a ayn rand any day of the time..."
NeverWoods Member	Sun Nov 21 16:29:18 "the only way you can even remotely reach my level is to use the lies and misquotes" Why do you lie? There is a hole forum dedicated on you for the quotes, want me to provide you with a link so you can point out the lies? "The difference is that you know they are lies and misquotes " No, the big difference is you want to pretend they are lies, while they are something that pretty much came from your mouth and there are links to back them up, will be happy to provide you a link so you can point the lies out if you want. "And unlike you I do not wish you dead. " Why do you lie? Did i say i want you dead i said you should have stayed dead.
NeverWoods Member	Sun Nov 21 16:29:55 "Yeah, I know. Tell it to NeverWoods." Ignorance of his own short comings.
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Sun Nov 21 16:30:51 I'm quite sure he wouldn't grab a book out of someone's hands and burn it in front of them. maybe go to the bookstore, buy a few rand books and burn them. but that is burning personal property, a non-issue.
Isaksson Member	Sun Nov 21 16:34:08 Tree. Tree. Christmastree Fee. Fee. Past Red Fee. Lee, Lee, coconut Lee Pea pea, clitoris pea. See see, you are hanging in a tree
Hot Rod Member	Sun Nov 21 16:39:21 He would probable do like the Nazis and take them by force. A book burner is a book burner is a book burner. You cannot excuse them. I can him running through the streets on Kristallnacht with a bucket of rocks. An anti-Semite to the max.
Hot Rod Member	Sun Nov 21 16:40:52 *-I can see him
ehcks Member	Sun Nov 21 16:52:20 When does Glenn Beck plan to change his name to Godwin? Maybe you should start, give him the incentive.
Isaksson Member	Sun Nov 21 16:55:28 I bet my balls that America will have bookstakes within the next 100 years...
Hot Rod Member	Sun Nov 21 17:10:08 Isaksson - I bet my balls that America will have bookstakes within the next 100 years... Maybe you should cut your balls off now and feed them to stupid ehcks. Perhaps it will make him smarter. He is too stupid to realize that NeverWoods has ***confessed*** to burning books of ideas because he doesn't agree with the ideas in the books. Godwin has nothing whatsoever to do with it.
miltonfriedman Member	Sun Nov 21 17:15:49 I hope chen feels good about himself for giving Pedo Rod a forum to display more retardation and trolling. Why are you doing this, chen?
Hot Rod Member	Sun Nov 21 17:19:36 Because he realizes that you are the ultimate stupid shit head.
Hot Rod Member	Sun Nov 21 17:19:53 -30-
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