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Palintology Member	Mon Oct 25 19:33:51 VIOLENT OVERTHROW OF GOVERNMENT!! WASHINGTON â?? Republican congressional candidate Stephen Broden stunned his party Thursday, saying he would not rule out violent overthrow of the government if elections did not produce a change in leadership. Elections 2010 Voter Guide: Compare candidates for U.S. House District 30 | Full Voter Guide DMN Editorial Board recommendations Election recap: Stories about the 2010 campaign Heat Index: Fact-checking candidates, campaigns' statements In a rambling exchange during a TV interview, Broden, a South Dallas pastor, said a violent uprising "is not the first option," but it is "on the table." That drew a quick denunciation from the head of the Dallas County GOP, who called the remarks "inappropriate." Broden, a first-time candidate, is challenging veteran incumbent Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson in Dallas' heavily Democratic 30th Congressional District. Johnson's campaign declined to comment on Broden. In the interview, Brad Watson, political reporter for WFAA-TV (Channel 8), asked Broden about a tea party event last year in Fort Worth in which he described the nation's government as tyrannical. "We have a constitutional remedy," Broden said then. "And the Framers say if that don't work, revolution." Watson asked if his definition of revolution included violent overthrow of the government. In a prolonged back-and-forth, Broden at first declined to explicitly address insurrection, saying the first way to deal with a repressive government is to "alter it or abolish it." "If the government is not producing the results or has become destructive to the ends of our liberties, we have a right to get rid of that government and to get rid of it by any means necessary," Broden said, adding the nation was founded on a violent revolt against Britain's King George III. Watson asked if violence would be in option in 2010, under the current government. "The option is on the table. I don't think that we should remove anything from the table as it relates to our liberties and our freedoms," Broden said, without elaborating. "However, it is not the first option." http://www...2210dnmetbroden.1b2338185.html
Aeros Member	Mon Oct 25 19:49:07 What do you replace a Democracy with in a violent overthrow? Not a Democracy. Death to all who oppose the Constitution!
river of blood Member	Mon Oct 25 19:52:34 Sweet. Now we can go back to getting ass raped by republicans again. Then democrats.... then republicans.... then democrats... then.....
Aeros Member	Mon Oct 25 19:53:24 RoB, you are the type of person who will complain regardless of who is in charge.
river of blood Member	Mon Oct 25 20:00:37 I was living in a concentration camp where the guy in charge would beat and torture us daily. He wore a blue hat. Then he was replaced by a guy with a red hat that beat and tortured us daily also. I was unhappy with both of them. I guess I just can't be satisfied. Airhole is right. *sniffle*
Aeros Member	Mon Oct 25 20:09:14 Liar. You have no clue what oppression is.
Palintology Member	Mon Oct 25 20:10:23 We tea partiers do, ever since Hussein Obama becamme president, he has subjected us to socialism, that in itself is oppression.
Madc0w Member	Mon Oct 25 20:40:08 Can we PLEASE elect a third party candidate? Just one that's not so batshit insane that they'd actually be worse than a Democrat or Republican in office.
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 20:55:29 What do you think tea party candidates are? it is funny when people beg for 3rd party candidates and then talk shit about the tea party. As to this, yeah he shouldn't have said it cause he is running for office but one of the primary reasons American's have the right to own guns is so we can keep the government in fear of us.
Jesse Malcolm Barack Member	Mon Oct 25 20:59:41 Dude the tea party is not fuzzing 3rd party it is republican with palin, o broomstick dummel and joe thug arrest reporters miller as its leaders
Madc0w Member	Mon Oct 25 21:00:28 The tea party is the Republican Party- mostly religious Christians who like Glenn Beck, military intervention, and are insane enough to be worse than Democrats and the so called RINOs.
Jason.Bourne Member	Mon Oct 25 21:02:32 Link?
Joe.Black Member	Mon Oct 25 21:03:27 All lies!
Jason.Bourne Member	Mon Oct 25 21:03:35 TEA Party = Taxed Enough Already Not Republicant, not Demoncrat, not Libertarian. Just united under the concept of minimalist government butting out of our lives, worried about basic services, self defensive wars, and otherwise GTFO of our lives. THAT is the TEA party.
J.B.Spotted Member	Mon Oct 25 21:03:49
Palintology Member	Mon Oct 25 21:04:06 Yeah! Screw the fact that all of our candidates are GOP!
ehcks Member	Mon Oct 25 21:04:48 http://www...ation&utm_term=Election%202010 Damn long gallup poll link.. Anyway, 62% of tea party supporters are conservative republicans.
ehcks Member	Mon Oct 25 21:05:56 And what? I mean, other than that 79+% of the tea party are just republicans that want to whine.
Palintology Member	Mon Oct 25 21:06:53 What are you trying to imply?
ehcks Member	Mon Oct 25 21:07:59 80% of tea party supporters would vote republican while only 5% would vote for third party candidates. They are SO third party.. right?
ehcks Member	Mon Oct 25 21:10:04 The average for "All Americans" in this poll put 45% voting republican and 47% voting democrat.
ehcks Member	Mon Oct 25 21:13:33 Whatever helps you sleep at night. While I don't prefer reality, I at least know what it is.
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 21:13:49 "The tea party is the Republican Party- mostly religious Christians who like Glenn Beck, military intervention, and are insane enough to be worse than Democrats and the so called RINOs. " Well it is true the tea party hates the democrat party and RINOs for obvious reasons they dislike the republican party with just as much gusto. If you bothered to educate yourself you would realize that the tea party has torn down much of the republican establishment in the primaries.
Neopalinism Member	Mon Oct 25 21:15:14 We hate the repulicans so much that we back them up and place "R" besides their names and still vote for them!
ehcks Member	Mon Oct 25 21:15:15 Do I really have to go over the facts again, mt? The tea party is 80% republican in membership, voting practices, and political platform.
Neopalinism Member	Mon Oct 25 21:15:30 ....and that is just to show the democrats that we mean business!
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 21:18:12 Haha, the tea party is 80% republican in membership huh? You realize there is no tea party club right? There is no membership. The tea party is a term used to define anti-bailout and government intervention groups. I would love to see your facts that claim the tea party has 80% republican memberships.
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 21:19:57 "What do you think tea party candidates are? it is funny when people beg for 3rd party candidates and then talk shit about the tea party. " Fucking imbecile, if they were a 3rd party candidate, they would become a PARTY not a movement. They would be an offical party, they wouldn't not run under as a republican.
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 21:20:55 "Haha, the tea party is 80% republican in membership huh? You realize there is no tea party club right? There is no membership. The tea party is a term used to define anti-bailout and government intervention groups. " As you argued multiple posts ago of them being a 3rd party, great sense, really!
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 21:22:10 Why would they become a party? The tea party represents core values that most Americans support, they know they can go into the republican primary and take out republican incumbents. But to say that the tea party candidates are not essentially 3rd party candidates is silly.
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 21:23:46 Marco Rubio was considered a fringe candidate a year ago, he was a tea party candidate of the Florida chapter. He entered the republican primary as an obvious outsider and 3rd party candidate, but his message was popular enough to beat Crist and force Crist to run as an indy.
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 21:24:18 "Why would they become a party?" Because you referred to them as a party. And people do prefer other parties because the main two party system is continuing in a downward spiral. "tea party represents core values that most Americans support, they know they can go into the republican primary and take out republican incumbents. " By being republicans themselves, interesting. Please continue with your nonsense, I'm intrigued. " But to say that the tea party candidates are not essentially 3rd party candidates is silly. " First they are, then they are not, and now they are again? Oh good god, really dude?
river of blood Member	Mon Oct 25 21:25:22 Anyone that thinks the movement currently referred to as the "Tea Party" is substantially anything other than the GOP establishment repackaging itself ONCE AGAIN to become the CEO of Slavery Incorporated is complete and hopeless fucking moron that has virtually no political awareness whatsoever. Oh wait..... it's mexitard. Nuff said.
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 21:25:29 Crist is actually a 3rd party candidate.
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 21:25:58 As much as I dislike RoB, fucking RoB is spot on.
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 21:26:30 Now excuse me as I go wash my mouth out with lava soap. Why lava soap? Don't ask..
river of blood Member	Mon Oct 25 21:26:41 LOL. "B....b...b...but they want lower taxes!!!" Jesus fucking christ. Really, mtard? Really? You never heard that line before?
ehcks Member	Mon Oct 25 21:27:02 /facepalm A supermajority of them are simply republicans who want to look like they're different. There isn't anything else to argue. Well, there is their rabid anti-intellectualism, and their incredibly high level of bible-thumping, and their racism, bigotry, xenophobia, and overall insanity.
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 21:29:48 wow. You think calling them "tea party candidates" refers that there is a party called "tea". Are you completely retarded? There is no "tea" party. The Tea Party is a reference of white people throwing tea into the docks pre revolution war. They were not part of a political party known as "Tea". And now you still argue that the tea party candidates, the candidates who emerged from the anti-government bailout protests over the past two years, are not essentially 3rd party candidates who have taken over the republican platform is utterly nonsensical. They ran against the party establishment in each state. Some of those republicans refused to concede, (See Crist and Murkowski & other lesser known representatives), others refused to support the tea party candidate who beat them (see castle). The tea party candidate is not getting support from the establishment because the establishment realizes the tea party movement is going to completely wipe them out and remake the republican party.
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 21:29:54 Anyone who falls for the slogan are fucking idiots. That includes all the Obamanites "change we can believe in" ugh....
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 21:31:16 "Anyone that thinks the movement currently referred to as the "Tea Party" is substantially anything other than the GOP establishment repackaging itself ONCE AGAIN to become the CEO of Slavery Incorporated is complete and hopeless fucking moron that has virtually no political awareness whatsoever." What do you say to Charlie Crist and Lisa Murkowski?
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 21:31:50 ehcks, I am still waiting for your facts that show 80% of the tea party membership is republican.
river of blood Member	Mon Oct 25 21:31:52 After the GOP establishment HIJACKED the fucking thing it was all over. It WAS grassroots, libertarian, radically constitutionalist, and lots of other good, boat-rocking things. Now it's complete shit because it's THE GOP. Fucking Palin was up in front of them telling them all to just vote for republicans as a solution to all of their ills and complaints. What a fucking sick joke.
ehcks Member	Mon Oct 25 21:32:58 I just can't understand how anyone could vote for a party when one of their most recently known candidates called for banning masturbation because of her own misinterpretation of the bible. And then when told she can't do that because of the separation of church and state, she says that that's not right because it's not in the constitution. And then when told that it's actually the first amendment, supporters like hot rod try to argue the semantics of the word "of" against the word "between". Sometimes I have to agree with RoB. America is spiraling into a black hole of stupid.
ehcks Member	Mon Oct 25 21:34:12 "ehcks, I am still waiting for your facts that show 80% of the tea party membership is republican." AND I'M WAITING FOR YOU TO READ IT! I posted it already! Click the Gallup.com link in my first post in here.
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 21:34:33 "wow. You think calling them "tea party candidates" refers that there is a party called "tea". Are you completely retarded? " No you unbelievable twit. We are all stating that the teabaggers are actually republicans, and if they are to be a 3rd as you asserted, then they should become an offical 3rd party instead of the facade they are portraying. Idiot. "There is no "tea" party. The Tea Party is a reference of white people throwing tea into the docks pre revolution war. They were not part of a political party known as "Tea"." You are fucking retarded. "And now you still argue that the tea party candidates, the candidates who emerged from the anti-government bailout protests over the past two years, are not essentially 3rd party candidates who have taken over the republican platform is utterly nonsensical. They ran against the party establishment in each state. Some of those republicans refused to concede, (See Crist and Murkowski & other lesser known representatives), others refused to support the tea party candidate who beat them (see castle). " Cris is a 3rd party now, Murkowski is a third party. The tea party are republicans, that is why they are running as...republicans. "The tea party candidate is not getting support from the establishment because the establishment realizes the tea party movement is going to completely wipe them out and remake the republican party. " So we are back to that tea pary people are republicans again. Again, tell me the difference between the tea party and the republicans?
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 21:34:58 "After the GOP establishment HIJACKED the fucking thing it was all over." Link to when the GOP establishment hijacked the fucking thing, (again you idiotically speak as if it is a tangential thing). And ehcks, are you conceding that there is no fact that 80% of the tea party membership is republican?
Jesse Malcolm Barack Member	Mon Oct 25 21:35:10 Dude it's so not republican that its damn figurehead is a failed republican VP candidate? Not much going up upstairs there huh mexidude?
ehcks Member	Mon Oct 25 21:37:27 "And ehcks, are you conceding that there is no fact that 80% of the tea party membership is republican?" I'll concede to the fact that you choose to be blind. There are two hyperlinks in this thread. Click the second one.
river of blood Member	Mon Oct 25 21:38:11 "And now you still argue that the tea party candidates, the candidates who emerged from the anti-government bailout protests over the past two years" That is not what the Tea Party emerged from, idiot. It was up and running before the bailouts. After the bailouts AND AFTER A DEMOCRAT BECAME PRESIDENT a bunch of astroturf GOP fucks and inbred, nigger-hating republonut hicks jumped in and systematically dilluted the whole thing into meaninglessness.... a vast mental void that apparently appeals to the likes of you.
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 21:38:19 "Link to when the GOP establishment hijacked the fucking thing, (again you idiotically speak as if it is a tangential thing). " Well you said it yourself practically: "The tea party candidate is not getting support from the establishment because the establishment realizes the tea party movement is going to completely wipe them out and remake the republican party. " Your words....
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 21:39:32 @ehcks - hey look, I found a gallup poll that says 49% of the tea party is republican and 43% are independent. Gee considering the momentum of the tea party which do you think is more accurate? http://www...y-mainstream-demographics.aspx
ehcks Member	Mon Oct 25 21:40:30 Probably the one that was done more recently. Hint: not yours.
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 21:41:06 STFU. Membership and demographics Several polls have been conducted on the demographics of the movement. Though the various polls sometimes turn up slightly different results, they tend to show that Tea Party supporters are mainly white and slightly more likely to be male, married, older than 45, more conservative than the general population, and likely to be more wealthy and have more education.[54][55][56][57][58] One notable exception to that finding is the Gallup poll, which found that other than gender, income and politics, self-described Tea Party members were demographically similar to the population as a whole.[59] When surveying supporters or participants of the Tea Party movement, polls have shown that they are significantly more likely to be registered Republican, have a favorable opinion of the Republican Party and an unfavorable opinion of the Democratic Party.[58][60] The Bloomberg News poll showed that 40% are 55 or older, 79% are white, 61% are men and 44% identify as "born-again" Christians,[61] compared to 23.4%,[62] 75%,[63] 48.5%,[64], and 34%[65] for the general population, respectively. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement
Palintology Member	Mon Oct 25 21:42:29 I'm you.
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 21:42:53 "Again, tell me the difference between the tea party and the republicans? " If you cannot see the difference between republican party of the 2000s and the tea party then you are blind pal. The tea party wants to restrict spending, and actually follow through, republicans paid lip service and now they are getting knocked out in the primaries for it. The tea party wants to actually secure the border, the republicans like the democrats wanted amnesty to get the latino vote, for this republicans lost primaries. The tea party wants to genuinely reform healthcare and allow insurance to be bought between state lines for actual competition, the republican party only paid lipservice to this and lost primaries for it.
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 21:43:55 "That is not what the Tea Party emerged from, idiot. It was up and running before the bailouts. After the bailouts AND AFTER A DEMOCRAT BECAME PRESIDENT a bunch of astroturf GOP fucks and inbred, nigger-hating republonut hicks jumped in and systematically dilluted the whole thing into meaninglessness" You have a link to any of that Rob?
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 21:46:05 ehcks - you honestly think in 3 months republican "membership" in the tea party protests went from under 50% to 80%. Do you honestly believe that? (please note I am arguing with 3 (4?) people here so have the courtesy to not be a dick and troll here).
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 21:48:11 @dickhead - fyi the tea party protests have pushed forward a very large amount of black candidates that have beaten incumbents in the primaries. A good majority of those blacks are going to enter Washington which should hopefully put an end to myth that blacks only vote for democrats.
river of blood Member	Mon Oct 25 21:49:18 "Link to when the GOP establishment hijacked the fucking thing" Here's one of several dozen highly visible events that demonstrate the hijacking. http://pol...ijacks-the-tea-party-movement/ There are tens of thousands of links to such things. How many would you like?
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 21:50:04 "If you cannot see the difference between republican party of the 2000s and the tea party then you are blind pal. The tea party wants to restrict spending, and actually follow through, republicans paid lip service and now they are getting knocked out in the primaries for it." Why are you referring them as the tea party, you said they aren't a party, so they are republicans. Republican platform; http://en....publican_Party_(United_States) Interesting how much the same they are... "The tea party wants to actually secure the border, the republicans like the democrats wanted amnesty to get the latino vote, for this republicans lost primaries. " Interesting the previous link sounds similar... "The tea party wants to genuinely reform healthcare and allow insurance to be bought between state lines for actual competition, the republican party only paid lipservice to this and lost primaries for it. " Interesting, the link provided sounds so similar. They are so different, why are they republicans?
ehcks Member	Mon Oct 25 21:50:51 Alright, as it turns out, the actual poll both pages use was the same. The question asked was different. The one I linked asked which party the person identified with, the one you linked asked which party they were a member of.
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 21:51:22 "fyi the tea party protests have pushed forward a very large amount of black candidates that have beaten incumbents in the primaries. A good majority of those blacks are going to enter Washington which should hopefully put an end to myth that blacks only vote for democrats. " That has nothing to do with the information I provided... try to focus.
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 21:51:30 I would like a link to someone who doesn't share your opinion RoB. Meaning I want an objective article that states the GOP establishment has hijacked the tea party movement. (Which is obviously impossible to do but I guess you will keep trying).
ehcks Member	Mon Oct 25 21:51:34 I mean, these were from different questions on the same poll.
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 21:53:28 Hence why a link was provided to you for you to research how it became 'hijacked'. But you said yourself, that the party was hijacked. Should I repeat what you said? Okay, I will... "The tea party candidate is not getting support from the establishment because the establishment realizes the tea party movement is going to completely wipe them out and remake the republican party. " so, completely wipe them out and remake the republican party, sounds like a fucking hijack to me. GG.
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 21:54:48 "They are so different, why are they republicans? " Because 3rd parties always fail. the only way to succeed in America is to take over one of the existing parties from the inside. The republican party obviously is closest to the tea party, the republican party (in theory) supports smaller government and less spending. However it is obvious the republican party no longer follows it's tenants which is why I state that the tea party is essentially rebranding the republican party which is what the establishment opposes. It is pretty pointless to argue this, either I will be proven right and in 10-11 we will see a republican congress pass through genuine HC reform and other things they have said they will do or they will be like all politicians and just conform to Washington DC.
river of blood Member	Mon Oct 25 21:54:58 "The tea party wants to restrict spending, and actually follow through," Yeah, they want to restrict spending on shit that republicans always want to restrict spending on. Derrrrr...... And the those spending restrictions generally amount to budget proposals that are like 5% less than democrat budget proposals. Yeah, real radical change there. Wake the fuck up.
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 21:57:04 Dickhead, ROB is claiming the republican party establishment has hijacked the tea party movement, I am saying the tea party movement has clearly taken over the republican party, or is in the process of doing so anyways. RoB has yet to provide anything beyond an op=ed by some obscure nashville blog. I have provided a fair amount of evidence in the form of the all the republican party incumbents that have been wiped out in the primaries by tea party candidates & further evidenced by all the shift to the right (in both parties) all due to the tea party's influence. please try to stay focused
river of blood Member	Mon Oct 25 21:58:47 "I would like a link to someone who doesn't share your opinion RoB" You want a link from someone that disagrees with me about the Tea Party as support for my argument about the Tea Party? Fucking kill yourself.
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 21:58:48 "Yeah, they want to restrict spending on shit that republicans always want to restrict spending on. " Lets see, clean up spending on medicare, clean up spending on welfare and clean up spending on SS to ultimately privatize it. That is about 60% of government spending in total? And guess what, some tea party candidates even want to cut back on military funds. Gee I guess youd know that if you didn't speak out of your ass.
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 21:59:21 "Because 3rd parties always fail. the only way to succeed in America is to take over one of the existing parties from the inside. " So we are back on that fact that there is no 3rd party, as your assertion earlier was that they were a 3rd party. Are you a flip-flopper or pride on inconsistency? "The republican party obviously is closest to the tea party, the republican party (in theory) supports smaller government and less spending. " But you just tried, in vane, to explain how different they are.... "However it is obvious the republican party no longer follows it's tenants which is why I state that the tea party is essentially rebranding the republican party which is what the establishment opposes." Hijacking, got ya, weren't you telling RoB that it wasn't hijacked and you wanted proof, but now youre saying they are going to hijack them? "It is pretty pointless to argue this, either I will be proven right and in 10-11 we will see a republican congress pass through genuine HC reform and other things they have said they will do or they will be like all politicians and just conform to Washington DC. " Yes, it is pretty pointless, because anyone with a brain know that the 'teabaggers' are republicans. Which was the premise from the beginning. I'm so glad that this was resolved.
river of blood Member	Mon Oct 25 21:59:25 ^ Check it out. Mexitard will only except a link that supports his point. GG, idiot.
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 21:59:50 "You want a link from someone that disagrees with me about the Tea Party as support for my argument about the Tea Party? " Read for comprehension little guy. "I would like a link to someone who doesn't share your opinion RoB. Meaning I want an objective article that states the GOP establishment has hijacked the tea party movement. (Which is obviously impossible to do but I guess you will keep trying). "
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 22:01:07 "Dickhead, ROB is claiming the republican party establishment has hijacked the tea party movement, I am saying the tea party movement has clearly taken over the republican party, or is in the process of doing so anyways." So you agree with RoB. Gotcha. "RoB has yet to provide anything beyond an op=ed by some obscure nashville blog. I have provided a fair amount of evidence in the form of the all the republican party incumbents that have been wiped out in the primaries by tea party candidates & further evidenced by all the shift to the right (in both parties) all due to the tea party's influence. please try to stay focused " Serious question, do you even review what you type, as in your thought process, before you actually commit to posting it? I mean seriously, do you?
river of blood Member	Mon Oct 25 22:01:49 "Lets see, clean up spending on medicare, clean up spending on welfare and clean up spending on SS" Are you really standing here in broad daylight in front of God and everyone telling us that you've never heard of republicans calling for reductions on welfare spending? I think this conversation just ended. Good night.... and good luck.
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 22:02:11 So dickhead, I guess that soap in your mouth is causing problems in your ability to focus lol. You appear to have RoB's and my arguments reversed. You said: "Hijacking, got ya, weren't you telling RoB that it wasn't hijacked and you wanted proof, but now youre saying they are going to hijack them?" My point: "Dickhead, ROB is claiming the republican party establishment has hijacked the tea party movement, I am saying the tea party movement has clearly taken over the republican party, or is in the process of doing so anyways. "
river of blood Member	Mon Oct 25 22:03:42 "Meaning I want an objective article" Please provide a list of objective sources that you'll accept..... as being objective. Thanks.
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 22:04:12 Rob - where have I stated that the republican party has never spoken about doing any of those things? and dickhead you seem to be under the odd assumption that the republican establishment taking over the tea party is the same thing as the tea party taking over the republican party. I would like to know how you came to that conclusion.
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 22:04:35 Well, because you can't deduce it, I would say it goes like this, both are using one another. Tea party hijacked GOP, GOP in returned hijacked tea party movement. So what do we have now MT? All teabaggers being republicans, all teabaggers backing republicans, because they are republicans.
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 22:05:22 One that doesn't have the phrase, "the tea party is gone, the tea party I knew" Generally I will accept any article that doesn't use the writers personal opinion and feelings when discussing that events. this is what is considered objective. I know it may be difficult for you to read something that doesn't tell you how to feel though.
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 22:05:27 Because they are one in the same.
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 22:06:25 ehcks essentially conceded that the demographics of the tea party are 46% indy, 43% republican. So how are they the republican party?
Mexican Retardo Member	Mon Oct 25 22:06:50 www.foxnews.com http://twitter.com/sarahpalinusa www.glennbeck.com
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 22:07:03 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 22:08:25 Oh gee, I don't how MT, maybe because all of them have Republican mouthpieces and running as republicans...
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 22:08:29 thanks for the link DH, I suppose that signals you have run out of steam.
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 22:08:59 Or the fact that I provided some statistics displaying some of the demographics of the tea baggers....go figure.
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 22:09:48 Run out of steam? Are you delusional? Please tell me how the tea party is not republican, that's your stance, or it appears to be....go ahead..
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 22:10:20 They won the primaries, that is how they are running as republicans. Some of them, see charlie crist/lisa murkowski, were endorsed by the republican establishment only to be beaten by tea party candidates. I suppose the wall you keep running into is that you think one republican is like any other republican which is obviously not true. there is a reason why the republican congress in 94 was able to reform welfare while 6 years of republican majority couldn't reform a single government program.
mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 22:11:12 i already showed you "facts" as ehcks would say, it is half republican and half independent. it is clearly not republican. it is clearly conservative. And no, they are not the same thing.
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 22:13:28 "They won the primaries, that is how they are running as republicans" So they are republicans and not 3rd party, that is a contrast from your inference earlier in this thread... "Some of them, see charlie crist/lisa murkowski, were endorsed by the republican establishment only to be beaten by tea party candidates. " That implies they are an indepedent entity, but as we know they are republicans, so they are backed up by the tea party movement, but not a 3rd party, back to them being republicans. Okay... "I suppose the wall you keep running into is that you think one republican is like any other republican which is obviously not true." Oh, you're being too kind. Is this you conceding that there are different variations of democrats and you have never lumped them all as the same? Hmmm.. "there is a reason why the republican congress in 94 was able to reform welfare while 6 years of republican majority couldn't reform a single government program. " Oh good god....
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 22:15:47 " already showed you "facts" as ehcks would say, it is half republican and half independent. " As I showed you facts and information for you to research more about the matter, but just like HR, you won't review them. But only rely on you skewed, yet fucked up few what the tea party is, that you miracuously think are different than republicans, but are not as they are republicans, running on a republican platform. "it is clearly not republican. it is clearly conservative. And no, they are not the same thing. " I guess that is why you never have lumped liberals and democrats in the same breath....hmm? So inconsistency is your forte..
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 22:16:57 As I remember, I am arguing with the person who wrong a long high school term paper on how it's Obama's fault for North Korea's aggression...
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mexicantornado Member	Mon Oct 25 22:20:45 no, i have never lumped liberals or democrats in the same breath. and no i will not read a wikipedia source. I provided a gallup poll that obviously made you look like a complete moron. you refused to acknowledge it and instead you ignore it and basically just copy and paste shit to make unnecessarily long posts and then post spam immediately after wards for no apparent reason. i could go over this again but why bother, you are either to stupid to understand or you just do not want too.
Dickhead UPer Member	Mon Oct 25 22:27:15 "no, i have never lumped liberals or democrats in the same breath. and no i will not read a wikipedia source. I provided a gallup poll that obviously made you look like a complete moron. " the gallup poll actually shows that majority will vote republican and are republicans; "Conservative Republicans outnumber moderate/liberal Republicans in the general population by about a 2-to-1 margin; among Tea Party supporters, the ratio is well more than 3 to 1. More generally, almost 8 out of 10 Tea Party supporters are Republicans," and your gallop poll is older versus the newer one that was put up by ehcks, so the information provided, supports my assertions versus yours. And of course you won't read my source because it supports what I've been telling you. I know your M.O. this is the same shit you pull all the time, it never fails. "you refused to acknowledge it and instead you ignore it and basically just copy and paste shit to make unnecessarily long posts and then post spam immediately after wards for no apparent reason. " This is why I call projection, I am not spamming or anything. Maybe, you are congested with the fact that you are getting rebuked. I know it's hard to accept, but seriously, when you graduate high school, hopefully you will have a better grasp of the world and political affiliations, so you don't have to repeat the slogans or platforms that has already been used by a party. " could go over this again but why bother, you are either to stupid to understand or you just do not want too. " Sounds like you're losing steam...what's the matter, does facts hurt your feelings retard?
Palintology Member	Mon Oct 25 22:27:40 I'm you!!!!
Neopalinism Member	Mon Oct 25 22:28:24 Why are you against the movement, we are you, we are representing you, are you tired of the Obama agenda oppressing you!
Neopalinism Member	Mon Oct 25 22:29:12 join the movement!
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