Utopia Talk / Politics / Political Quote of The Day

Hot Rod Member	Wed Oct 20 09:55:01 "Should things go wrong at any time, the people will set them to rights by the peaceable exercise of their elective rights." ~Thomas Jefferson
miltonfriedman Member	Wed Oct 20 09:57:11 Goddamnit. You doing this quote shit every day now? Fucking attention whore.
Hot Rod Member	Wed Oct 20 16:20:24 mf, I have two solutions to your problem, take your pick. 1. Do not open anymore of my threads, just stay out of them. We will both be happy. 2. Slit your fucking throat and bleed out. Everyone will be happy but your butt budies, but no one cares about them.
miltonfriedman Member	Wed Oct 20 21:34:28 Retard Rod, I opened your thread not to read the content, but to comment on your narcissistic tendency. Rest assured that at no time did I read the OP. Here is a good quote: "I will stop raping young boys if you stop sucking nigger cocks." ~Molester Rod
Goreth Member	Thu Oct 21 04:39:33 Thomas Jefferson was a great man. Sadly, like many other great men, he greatly underestimated the gullibility, stupidity and short-sightedness of the common people. If he saw the hackery and dishonesty in modern american politics he'd probably cry.
Goreth Member	Thu Oct 21 04:40:32 Can you please stop that stupid shit AH? By wrecking Rods threads you make yourself an even bigger douchebag than he is.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Oct 21 05:23:30 Goreth, you are right about President Jefferson being short sighted, but not sure we can place all the blame on him. I doubt any of The Founding Fathers would have dreamed that the common people could have been so lazy and apathetic as to squander such a precious gift as freedom by leaving it in the hands of politicians.
Dead Rod Member	Thu Oct 21 05:26:55 ttt
Hot Rod Member	Thu Oct 21 05:32:02 As long as my threads are spammed I will continue to top them after the mods clean up the spam. The spammer *WILL NOT* take away *YOUR CHANCE* to read my threads. He is not my censor. If you do not wish to read my threads all you have to do is ignore them and not click on them. A spammer does *NOT* have the right to make your decisions for you.
Goreth Member	Thu Oct 21 05:34:04 I don't blame him, it's not his fault. I just pointed out that this quote is not as true as it should be. "I doubt any of The Founding Fathers would have dreamed that the common people could have been so lazy and apathetic as to squander such a precious gift as freedom by leaving it in the hands of politicians." Well, I don't understand myself how people can consistenly elect politicians who just keep fucking them over, so it's no wonder the founding fathers didn't see it coming.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Oct 21 05:35:47 We are on the same page here. :)
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Thu Oct 21 08:11:10 says the guy who voted for bush and mccain. great track record there.
Rugian Member	Thu Oct 21 08:14:06 The Founding Fathers didn't underestimate shit. There's a reason why in the days of the Founding Fathers, as little as 20% of a state's adult population was eligible to vote.
CrownRoyal Member	Thu Oct 21 08:34:14 What a totally stupid quote, Rod.
NeverWoods Member	Thu Oct 21 08:49:07 "If he saw the hackery and dishonesty in modern american politics he'd probably cry." One look at HR he would have cried.
the archivist Member	Thu Oct 21 08:51:24 'I have learned not to be a racist I am a social liberal. I have nothing against gays. I am in 100% agreement with Joe. It is a hateful word that has no place in any society. Only psychopaths could possibly get any pleasure out of using it in any of it's forms. Joe spoke of discrimination. In WWII Black American Soldiers were crowded into cheap seats on the trains in The South so white German POW's could ride in comfort. Anyone that uses that word as an insult cannot possibly anymore despicable in my book. I had a good friend who told me once, "the 'N' word cuts us to the very marrow of our bones." You cannot have a double standard when it comes to that word. It needs to disappear from the human mind and be relegated to oblivion. Stevie has the right idea. "We buried the word and it should have been buried. For all the pain that has happened over the years, it needs to go away." --Stevie Wonder It is probably the single most hated word in the English language. mf, I didn't include yopu in being a closet homosexual. We all know how much you love those big juicy nigger cocks with their cum drooling down your chin. Why not call them what they are? It is obvious what they are trying to hide. That is what I respect about you, you are not ashamed of sucking nigger cock. You still got that big juicy nigger cock up your ass queer? So you consider sucking those great big juicy nigger cocks to be mentally healthy. Well as long as you consider yourself virtuous you just go right aheadd. Just don't bite down. Who you got at the plate tonight? Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton? Stupid shit face foreigner, can't even read English. Is it your mother or your father that is a nigger. Renzo says it is your dad, I say it is your mother. You have a nice day there Sand Nigga. If a race or nationality does not want to be profiled by the authorities, let the innocent ones help clean up the mess by speaking out. I'm tired of their whining. Fucking ignorant foreigners. I won't rape if you will give up sucking nigger dick. Too much to ask opf you? Just as I thought.' - hot rod
miltonfriedman Member	Thu Oct 21 09:41:23 Goreth, I will let your comment go this time since you are a small fry here. Firstly, I am not AH's multi. I have been here way longer than he did. Admittedly, AH done a good job here exposing Molester Rod's hypocrisies (and as you can see how every one is sick of them as well).
miltonfriedman Member	Thu Oct 21 09:42:02 Oh, I forgot to include this quote: "Renzo, your little niece is the best knob polisher in my stable." ~Pedophile Rod
miltonfriedman Member	Thu Oct 21 09:45:37 The best of Molester Rod can be found here: http://www...hread=39254&time=1287522509886 And also at the Axis of Retards official board: http://theaxisofupretards.sweetphp.net/
Goreth Member	Thu Oct 21 11:29:17 "I will let your comment go this time since you are a small fry here. Firstly, I am not AH's multi." I was talking about AHs spam post that wrecked the thread-format, maybe you haven't seen it before it was deleted. I, unlike some other people, realize its hard to figure out who is behind which multi. "AH done a good job here exposing Molester Rod's hypocrisies (and as you can see how every one is sick of them as well)." No, he doesn't. You can call HR out on his hypocrisy, but spam and pedo jokes are just childish.
Goreth Member	Thu Oct 21 11:31:42 "One look at HR he would have cried." Well, since he is an enthusiastic hack, that is obvious. "There's a reason why in the days of the Founding Fathers, as little as 20% of a state's adult population was eligible to vote." Which 20%?
miltonfriedman Member	Thu Oct 21 11:32:44 "You can call HR out on his hypocrisy, but spam and pedo jokes are just childish." These aren't jokes. They were Molester Rod's own words.
Rugian Member	Thu Oct 21 11:35:38 "Which 20%?" To take Rhode Island as an example: As late as 1840, only 40% of the state's white male population was eligible to vote. In order to be eligible, you had to own land worth at least a certain value, and non-whites and women were automatically disqualified. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorr_Rebellion
Rugian Member	Thu Oct 21 11:36:51 To put it another way though, that 20% was probably statistically the most intelligent and knowledgable 20% of the adult population. Which was my point from earlier.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Oct 21 11:58:26 miltonfriedman - "I will let your comment go this time since you are a small fry here. Firstly, I am not AH's multi." No, you are his ass licker. And not a very good one so he says.
miltonfriedman Member	Thu Oct 21 12:08:24 Let me get this straight, Molester Rod. You discuss homosexual and deviant sex with another male poster?
Goreth Member	Thu Oct 21 12:26:31 @Rugian: Having a penis, white skin and land are not indicators of politicial wisdom. I'm not opposed to only letting smart people vote, but those criteria positively suck.
Rugian Member	Thu Oct 21 12:30:15 goreth: The point wasn't that those should be modern-day qualifications for voting rights. The point was that, due to the societal structure of America at the time, rich male landowners were far and away the best educated people in the country and were probably the best people for voting purposes. Obviously skin color shouldn't bar you from voting. But universal suffrage with no intelligence tests has likely resulted in an average lower intelligence level, voter-wise.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Oct 21 12:32:56 mf - your homosexual and deviant sex is common knowledge. Everyone knows it.
Goreth Member	Thu Oct 21 12:34:14 I can agree on that one. I would combine voting with a political quiz. And if you score too low, your vote isn't counted. Stupid people being encouraged to vote makes it easy for crooks to get elected.
NeverWoods Member	Thu Oct 21 12:36:26 "I would combine voting with a political quiz. And if you score too low, your vote isn't counted." So much for democracy ;)
Goreth Member	Thu Oct 21 12:41:34 You could say the same about arbitrary minimum age...
Milton Bradley Member	Thu Oct 21 12:41:42 Hotrod in the middle of a flame fest? Nah, couldnt be.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Oct 21 12:42:22 Goreth - I would combine voting with a political quiz. And if you score too low, your vote isn't counted. They did that to The African Americans up until they passed the Civil Rights Act in the '50;s. I think the test was reciting The Declaration of Independence and/or The Constitution without making a mistake.
Goreth Member	Thu Oct 21 12:43:59 That's a stupid quiz. It's important to know what's in it, not the exact words.
NeverWoods Member	Thu Oct 21 12:45:37 "You could say the same about arbitrary minimum age..." No you could not. They are there to make sure the young ones develop a view of there own and has some understanding of things. No matter how stupid one is(Hot Rodian) has already a developed view of things and some understanding.
Rugian Member	Thu Oct 21 12:47:42 goreth: HR is trolling (and lying out of his ass). Please ignore him. NW: Voting is the act of determining who should head our government. If you don't know the basics of our government, then why should you be allowed to vote?
Goreth Member	Thu Oct 21 12:51:40 "They are there to make sure the young ones develop a view of there own and has some understanding of things." And the quiz I'm proposing is for making sure that each voter has developed a view of their own and some understanding of things...
NeverWoods Member	Thu Oct 21 12:56:26 But not getting a clear on the quiz would mean they are not eligible to vote. which is very none democratic. Why just not make the quiz and let them vote, after the fact examen the quiz and see how dumb your countries populace is? And what could be done to improve the results.
Rugian Member	Thu Oct 21 12:59:58 "But not getting a clear on the quiz would mean they are not eligible to vote. which is very none democratic." Democracy is not about letting 100.0000% of the population vote. -We don't allow children to vote because they do not have the maturity or education to be able to. -We don't let felons vote because they have damaged our society in some serious manner and we don't want them deciding how that same society should be run. Similarly, we shouldn't let the people who can't even name something like the three branches of government vote, because their votes effectively damage the system.
NeverWoods Member	Thu Oct 21 13:02:33 I would be the first to yell, yes no hot rodian's at the vote booth. But the fact of the matter is this will take away the very fabric of what is considered democracy, everyone is aloud to participate no matter what level of hot rodian they are. Or else we might be walking a very slippery slope path.
NeverWoods Member	Thu Oct 21 13:03:35 "-We don't let felons vote because they have damaged our society in some serious manner and we don't want them deciding how that same society should be run." Thats you, i find this stupid. As they are as much a part of the system as you are.
Goreth Member	Thu Oct 21 13:10:25 "But not getting a clear on the quiz would mean they are not eligible to vote. which is very none democratic." Democracy is just a means to an end. And that end is competent and fair governance. Democracy is certainly better than anything so far tried, but that doesn't make it the last word in governance. And anyway, under my system you can become eligible to vote by simply educating yourself. Is that really too much asked? And as I pointed out, we already do a similar thing, only difference is that we assume political competence at a certain age, rather than checking it. "Why just not make the quiz and let them vote, after the fact examen the quiz and see how dumb your countries populace is? And what could be done to improve the results." That would be nice too, but I think ignorance needs to have negative consequences if we want to get rid of it. And we really need to get rid of it.
NeverWoods Member	Thu Oct 21 13:17:10 So you want to start a revolution against people whom are not much into politics or are single stand point voters? Start a proposition for that see how far 'your'(as you are not the first one to come up with this) will be accepted, if not do what Lenin and Stalin did? Or try the discrete one and have at least a starting point.
Goreth Member	Thu Oct 21 13:21:22 LOL! Do you have any further arguments beside name calling and screaming bloody murder? And yes, I know it has no chance of getting signed into law, because many people treat the right of even the most clueless idiot to vote as a sacred cow and politicians aren't going to take out the people who are the easiest to fuck over out of their power base. I'm just saying it would be a good idea.
NeverWoods Member	Thu Oct 21 13:26:35 Did i name call or scream bloody murder? You want to start a revolution, which is rarely not bloody. Is it not a revolution as stated here by you "That would be nice too, but I think ignorance needs to have negative consequences if we want to get rid of it." That is you saying, that you want a revolution into a hybrid democracy. But do mind us small folks when you walk all over us. ;) "I'm just saying it would be a good idea." Not the way you want it to proceed.
NeverWoods Member	Thu Oct 21 13:39:17 Besides it will not be as easy as you imagine it to be to get the quiz out, as the questions has to be cleared by all parties and they too have the right to veto it. Which will take time and effort and a lot of bickering.
NeverWoods Member	Thu Oct 21 13:43:13 Take swedish SD or british BNP as an example, if you know all your voter base are near retarded why would you want make them take a quiz? They would never approve any questions put forth no matter the difficulty level.
Goreth Member	Thu Oct 21 13:50:19 "Did i name call or scream bloody murder? You want to start a revolution, which is rarely not bloody." No, I don't. That what you are insinuating and what I called screaming bloody murder. And you brought up Stalin and Lenin as examples, which is pretty much name calling. It's a suggestion to improve democracy which I'm well aware has very slim chances to get anywhere. (And yes, I realise agreeing on a quiz would be hard with partisanship and whatnot) Exactly because politics is so fucked up right now I dare say. But since you're only listening to half of what I'm saying because you have your panties in a knot, I'll just leave it at 'I've made my point'.
Canadian Member	Thu Oct 21 13:58:01 I'm all in favour of an intelligence test (not a poll tax that was in place during Jim Crow), and I openly admit it would hurt democracy. That being said, is not democracy presently crippled by morons?
NeverWoods Member	Thu Oct 21 14:11:52 Lenin and Stalin what i think are great examples. Lenin him self was not that bad for his country, he brought soviet up to speed with the rest of the world and even exceed all of them. However it did cost a lot of blood for his revolution. Same with Stalin, with his little own spin on Leninism. I did not intend to call you names by bringing them up, but they are a good examples for what revolutions do if the people are not 100% behind you. "It's a suggestion to improve democracy which I'm well aware has very slim chances to get anywhere. (And yes, I realise agreeing on a quiz would be hard with partisanship and whatnot) Exactly because politics is so fucked up right now I dare say." We all want that, but there is no clean way to do it what ever you do, you will fuck it up in one way or another. The only way to do it (imo) is not to force it but let the people accept it over time the changes one brings in, let the spirit of society grow and intertwined with it, takes time but as history has any say its better this way. I like the idea to be honest it's like a driving license but i disagree on how you want to do it. While you want to make harsh consciousness for a fail and they pay the cost for it by not getting a registered vote. That is way to harsh for me to agree with, and it will leave many behind. Like people that are not much into the hole drama that is called an election and the single stand point voters. I want it to be more subtle, you do it if you fail no big deal for you but the a greater job for the current government to show that they can improve the results from the past. As they will have to feel the blow for a high fail ratings.
NeverWoods Member	Thu Oct 21 14:25:52 My bottom line is while you want to punish the voters, I want to punish the government.
miltonfriedman Member	Thu Oct 21 14:28:05 "Lenin him self was not that bad for his country," I gotta say, this is pretty disturbing.
NeverWoods Member	Thu Oct 21 14:29:10 Look at it before his time.
miltonfriedman Member	Thu Oct 21 15:05:18 Why only looking at negative figures?
Hot Rod Member	Sat Oct 23 07:21:44 A politician thinks of the next election; a statesman thinks of the next generation. ~James Freeman Clarke, Sermon
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