Utopia Talk / Politics / So Let's Talk About Jerry Brown's Fuckup

Hot Rod Member	Sun Oct 10 07:37:39 An associate of Jerry Brown calls Meg Whitman a "whore" over pension reform (AUDIO) October 7, 2010 | 6:22 pm In a private conversation that was inadvertently taped by a voicemail machine (audio below), an associate of Democratic gubernatorial candidate Jerry Brown can be heard referring to his Republican opponent Meg Whitman as a â??whoreâ?? for cutting a deal protecting law enforcement pensions as the two candidates competed for police endorsements. The comment came after Brown called the Los Angeles Police Protective League in early September to ask for its endorsement. He left a voicemail message for Scott Rate, a union official. Brown apparently believed he had hung up the phone, but the connection remained intact and the voice mail machine captured an ensuing conversation between Brown and his aides. With evident frustration, Brown discussed the pressure he was under to refuse to reduce public safety pensions or lose law enforcement endorsements to Whitman. Months earlier, Whitman had agreed to exempt public safety officials from key parts of her pension reform plan. â??Do we want to put an ad out? â?¦ That I have been warned if I crack down on pensions, I will be â?? that theyâ??ll go to Whitman, and thatâ??s where theyâ??ll go because they know Whitman will give â??em, will cut them a deal, but I wonâ??t,â?? Brown said. At that point, what appears to be a second voice interjects: â??What about saying sheâ??s a whore?â?? â??Well, Iâ??m going to use that,â?? Brown responds. â??It proves youâ??ve cut a secret deal to protect the pensions.â?? The tape was released to The Times by the Los Angeles police union. Brown campaign spokesman Sterling Clifford, confirming the tapeâ??s authenticity, said that Brown was responding to the notion of accusing Whitman of cutting a deal to gain endorsements, not to the use of the word â??whore.â?? The campaign was trying to determine the identity of the second speaker, he added. -- Seema Mehta in Los Angeles UPDATE: Campaigns respond Listen to the audio here ... ^-Go to site. http://lat...whore-over-pension-reform.html
Hot Rod Member	Sun Oct 10 07:47:06 Sounds like a man's voice to me, but the Brown Camp is trying to say it was Brown's wife that said it in an attempt to minimize the damage. They are saying the person who said it cannot be fired to further imply that it was Brown's wife. Plus they are calling it "salty language." This is Bull Shit. People that stoop to that kind of salacious language have no business in government.
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Sun Oct 10 22:58:03 if your rules for government were ever to be enforced, we would have to develop android to serve as politicians.
Milton Bradley Member	Sun Oct 10 23:03:49 His rules instantly vanish when republicans are in power. Which in his mind makes him a libertarian.
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Sun Oct 10 23:05:05 Right, I forgot about how libertarians were right winged, genocidal fascists.
Hot Rod Member	Sun Oct 10 23:25:09 Is that really the kinds of politicians you want in office? Never mind, I know the answer to that one.
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Sun Oct 10 23:31:39 I want the kind of politicians that start global wars. Preferably ones with massive casualties. I want to see the entire planet set ablaze in nuclear fire, and I want no life to survive. So no, this guy doesn't really fit the bill of the type of politician I want to see in office.
Madc0w Member	Sun Oct 10 23:32:50 What if you're the first to die and you don't get to see everything else go to hell? Would you be ok with that?
Hot Rod Member	Sun Oct 10 23:33:02 So you *DO* want Obama. Give him a little more time.
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Sun Oct 10 23:33:27 If it means I perish sooner rather than later, than yes, I'm ok with that.
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Sun Oct 10 23:34:51 'So you *DO* want Obama. Give him a little more time.' If supernigger is in fact the anti christ, then I support him fully. Of course, since I live in the frozen wastelands to the north, my support or lack of support hardly matters.
kargen Member	Sun Oct 10 23:36:21 "People that stoop to that kind of salacious language have no business in government." You have to remember this was two people thinking they were talking just amongst themselves. It isn't like when President Nixon told Brezhnev to go fuck his grandmother. To his credit President Nixon said it in Russian, but still... You would think politicians would be more carefull, even when they think they are in private and not use this kind of language, but honestly I don't think cursing or tossing around a few colorfull remarks when you think you are alone is an issue at all. If he were to run an add calling her a whore, then maybe there is room to be upset.
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Sun Oct 10 23:37:25 President Nixon seems rather awesome after reading your post kargen.
Hot Rod Member	Sun Oct 10 23:38:42 Perhaps it is not really an issue, but it does show the character of Brown and company.
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Sun Oct 10 23:41:17 are you saying you have never once used such language in a moment of anger, even when you thought the conversation was private HR?
miltonfriedman Member	Sun Oct 10 23:41:39 "I will tell lies about Democrats." What kind of character could you tell about the person responsible for the above quote?
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Sun Oct 10 23:42:25 that he was completely devoid of honor?
miltonfriedman Member	Sun Oct 10 23:43:55 What if I tell you the the same person also said the following: "Because dinosaurs are reptiles, dinosaurs are still alive."
Hot Rod Member	Sun Oct 10 23:47:24 Of course I have, but I expect more from those in the public eye. I'm not held to that standard just as few on this board hold themselves to that standard. Shaq was asked once in an interview if he would ever do a nude scene in a movie. He replied, Oh no, I couldn't do one of those I'm a role model." The man earned my respect when he said that.
Cthulhu Tentacle Rapist	Sun Oct 10 23:47:30 that they lack basic scientific understanding of the subject at hand
yankeessuck123 Member	Sun Oct 10 23:49:21 I am Governor Jerry Brown My aura smiles And never frowns Soon I will be president... Carter Power will soon go away I will be Fuhrer one day I will command all of you Your kids will meditate in school Your kids will meditate in school! [Chorus:] California Uber Alles California Uber Alles Uber Alles California Uber Alles California Zen fascists will control you 100% natural You will jog for the master race And always wear the happy face Close your eyes, can't happen here Big Bro' on white horse is near The hippies won't come back you say Mellow out or you will pay Mellow out or you will pay! [Chorus] Now it is 1984 Knock-knock at your front door It's the suede/denim secret police They have come for your uncool niece Come quietly to the camp You'd look nice as a drawstring lamp Don't you worry, it's only a shower For your clothes here's a pretty flower. DIE on organic poison gas Serpent's egg's already hatched You will croak, you little clown When you mess with President Brown When you mess with President Brown
miltonfriedman Member	Sun Oct 10 23:50:32 Startling revelation: molester Rod holds other people to a different standard than the one he holds himself to. And he thinks this is justifiable.
Hellfire Member	Mon Oct 11 01:26:14 "Of course I have, but I expect more from those in the public eye. " Except the guy in the Public eye here didn't say it. Plus you haven't even held your Republican's to that standard. Where was your outrage when Cheney told that guy on the senate floor to go fuck himself? What about John McCain's potty mouth? Such a hack....
Hot Rod Member	Mon Oct 11 05:32:52 I didn't think much of their actions either, but what they said was not in the middle of an election and against a female candidate. Plus theirs was not a personal slur using such despicable language towards an individual. What exacerbated the use of the word was trying to palm it off as another woman, Brown's wife, who said it so they could cover the ass of the person who did.
Rugian Member	Mon Oct 11 08:22:34 Without commenting, I'll just post this article, let you all draw comparisons. ---- Sources: Cheney curses senator over Halliburton criticism June 25, 2004 Typically a break from partisan warfare, this year's Senate class photo turned smiles into snarls as Vice President Dick Cheney reportedly used profanity toward one senior Democrat, sources said. Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont, who was on the receiving end of Cheney's ire, confirmed that the vice president used profanity during Tuesday's class photo. A spokesman for Cheney confirmed there was a "frank exchange of views." Using profanity on the Senate floor while the Senate is session is against the rules. But the Senate was technically not in session at the time and the normal rules did not apply, a Senate official said. http://art...te-democrats?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS
miltonfriedman Member	Mon Oct 11 09:45:50 I guess that's why it's ok for Molester Rod to rape Lil' Davey. He is not being held to moral standards that others are expected to be held to.
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Oct 11 09:48:59 Rod shows respect to women in another thread. "You need only look at Crist in Florida and that bitch in Alaska to see that. " http://ata...hread=39161&time=1286808313921
miltonfriedman Member	Mon Oct 11 09:50:24 This goes straight to "Teabagger's belief system." Good find!
miltonfriedman Member	Mon Oct 11 09:55:54 Some more hypocrisies: "I have learned not to be a racist" The Guardian Member Tue Jul 06 23:13:21 mf, I didn't include yopu in being a closet homosexual. We all know how much you love those big juicy nigger cocks with their cum drooling down your chin. The Guardian Member Tue Jul 06 23:17:06 Why not call them what they are? It is obvious what they are trying to hide. That is what I respect about you, you are not ashamed of sucking nigger cock. Hot Rod Member Tue Jul 06 23:35:23 You still got that big juicy nigger cock up your ass queer? Hot Rod Member Tue Jul 06 23:59:16 So you consider sucking those great big juicy nigger cocks to be mentally healthy. Well as long as you consider yourself virtuous you just go right aheadd. Just don't bite down. Hot Rod Member Wed Jul 07 00:07:59 Who you got at the plate tonight? Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton? http://www...hread=36586&time=1278479933111 Hot Rod Moderator Tue Aug 26 08:08:42 Stupid shit face foreigner, can't even read English. Hot Rod Member Mon Sep 13 07:03:24 Is it your mother or your father that is a nigger. Renzo says it is your dad, I say it is your mother.
Rugian31881 Member	Sun Feb 05 00:45:50 some real time her laugh about thousand .
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