Utopia Talk / Politics / MORE BIASED MODERATING WTF????

J.B. Member	Thu Sep 09 06:38:14 http://ata...&thread=38186&showdeleted=true Notice which posts were deleted...
J.B. Member	Thu Sep 09 06:38:42 So, "Wife and Kids" threats are o.k., but responses are not o.k.?
Nimatzo Member	Thu Sep 09 06:40:46 You mean your multis posts were deleted? When you have specifically been told to stick to one handle? Where does the surprise part come in you fucking fagot?
Firestorm Phoenix Member	Thu Sep 09 06:42:31 Be lucky you can still post at all after your Poison-style temper tantrum.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Sep 09 06:46:53 miltonfriedman, Adolph Hitler, Milton Bradley, Renzo, et al. say shit like that about my mom all the time and no one deletes it. It was one of them who claimed my thread was a duplicate, which it absolutely was not, along with references to my dead mother. The mod allowed the post to remain. Mods should be consistent on this issue. Either leave it or delete it every time someone posts that crap.
Adolf Hitler Member	Thu Sep 09 06:50:09 How are the wife and kids JB? No accidents recently?
Adolf Hitler Member	Thu Sep 09 06:54:47 "It was one of them who claimed my thread was a duplicate, which it absolutely was not, along with references to my dead mother. The mod allowed the post to remain. " I havent got a clue what youre whining about but I hope it was me lol
Camaban Moderator	Thu Sep 09 07:19:51 Ok, J.B. gets another DoS.
J.B. Member	Thu Sep 09 07:56:31 What the fuck, Camaban? Why are you allowing spam in my threads?
Camaban Moderator	Thu Sep 09 07:58:20 Yeah, if you don't understand the situation by now, there's not much point in my answering further questions.
J.B. Member	Thu Sep 09 07:59:03 Humor me.
J.B. Member	Thu Sep 09 08:00:13 How is this o.k. (with you, and with the rest of the members)? http://ata...&thread=38186&showdeleted=true
Adolf Hitler Member	Thu Sep 09 08:01:35 Fine by me. Funny even lol
J.B. Member	Thu Sep 09 08:02:18 Nobody asked you. Well, Camaban?
Adolf Hitler Member	Thu Sep 09 08:03:22 Yes you did. So there you have it. Its fine by me and funny even.
J.B. Member	Thu Sep 09 08:06:02 so let me get this straight: A moderator is Adolf Hitlter- the notorious spammer- and he is also singling me out, while permitting spam in all of my threads because he doesn't like the content of my posts? You are complaining about my supposed multis (which I ask you to delete as spam whenever they surface) while you admit that you are spamming my threads with your own multis?
J.B. Member	Thu Sep 09 08:08:19 I find that hard to believe, unless you are schizophrenic.
Camaban Moderator	Thu Sep 09 08:08:32 Yeah, I'm not AH. And it's OK with me because you were given a choice. J.B. Alex or both. You then told me to take both and went on a spamming spree. I have since regretted relaxing my DoS policy and can assure you that this mistake will not be made a second time.
J.B. Member	Thu Sep 09 08:11:20 Are you passing a rule for everyone on this board to use only ONE handle? If so, a. Who authorized you to make any rules for the board b. Why is the legitimate thread being targetted by the both the spammer AND you?
Adolf Hitler Member	Thu Sep 09 08:11:30 you forgot Im also a secret muslim as well as a secret mod.
J.B. Member	Thu Sep 09 08:12:02 and c. why aren't you cleaning up the spam in an otherwise legitimate thread, while still targeting me?
J.B. Member	Thu Sep 09 08:12:31 Another example of a multi gone-wild: Adohlf Hitlre.
Camaban Moderator	Thu Sep 09 08:27:20 There was a vote on it a while back. You were made aware of it afterwards. And it's being targetted by me because you post in it. I assume it's the same reason it's targetted by a spammer. Unfortunately however, it has historically been difficult to differentiate between serious posts in your threads and spam.
Jewgle Member	Thu Sep 09 08:35:02 Sorry missed out on this one. JB resumed his spamming again? Hm, figures.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Sep 09 08:46:31 May I point out that miltonfriedma made these posts or include them as part of another post in the same thread. Well, we must first know if your wife and kids are pwned. Only if your wife and kids are pwnt. But are the wife and kids pwnt? wife and kids are getting pwnt. then your wife and kids will be pwnt Isn't that considered spam to repeat the same basic post over and over again in the same thread?
Adolf Hitler Member	Thu Sep 09 08:47:41 Well, are they?
Jewgle Member	Thu Sep 09 09:04:26 From the looks of it, JB violated the stipulations of not posting under his multiple tags.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Sep 09 09:15:05 Yes, I understand that. But doesn't the above repetitions constitute spam? They are saying basically the same thing and mf is obviously baiting JB.
Jewgle Member	Thu Sep 09 09:16:48 It is condense to one thread, versus multiple threads of the same topic, which JB and you to an extent have done, but JB more so, unless youre memory is poor and you forgot all the constant 'Islam is evil' threads?
Adolf Hitler Member	Thu Sep 09 09:17:57 You mean like when you repeat "theres your tell" or "^-Liar" all through threads? Is that what you mean by repeating the same post is spam?
Hot Rod Member	Thu Sep 09 09:20:24 Spam is spam isn't it, whether it be in one thread or multiple threads. Isn't that what repeating the same thing over and over is? I would like to get a ruling on this from a MOD. BTW, I never said Islam is evil.
Adolf Hitler Member	Thu Sep 09 09:22:24 " Isn't that what repeating the same thing over and over is? " So when you repeat 'theres your tell...', 'Liar' etc, you are in fact spamming and should be deleted. Yes, I too think the mods should be brought aware of your request.
Jewgle Member	Thu Sep 09 09:22:41 I never said that you said Islam is evil. However, it could be argued that you indeed have that view with various comments you've made regarding the topic of Islam and muslims. But that isn't the point.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Sep 09 09:37:25 I think some aspects and practices of Islam are medieval and evil. Such as stoning a woman for holding hands with a male or being raped by a man, adult men marrying nine year olds, female circumcision, whipping a woman for accidentally allowing a portion of her wrists to be seen and all similar violations of human rights. Actually, I do consider *ALL* religions as evil, but that is purely a philosophical view and has nothing to do with a particular religion.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Sep 09 09:39:11 Everyone has the right to believe in whatever they like, they just cannot escape the consequences.
Rugian Member	Thu Sep 09 09:42:00 JB, your spamming pretty much removed any remaining sympathy that UP had for you. Fuck off and die. Of course, Hot Rod supports you, but only because Hot Rod has become a full-time troll since his resurrection and will say anything he can to try and annoy people.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Sep 09 09:48:45 Rugian, I'm just try to get a point clarified. I know that no matter what I say or how I say it you are going to think it is wrong, but I'm getting mixed signals here. I would like a clarification from a Mod about a point of order.
Jewgle Member	Thu Sep 09 10:29:46 honestly, you dont need a clarification.
J.B. Member	Thu Sep 09 10:29:54 Rugian, you made no contribution to this thread. I'd like an answer from Camaban on what we're going to do about this.
Jewgle Member	Thu Sep 09 10:39:59 You're spamming and DOS is going to be implemented...again. Way to go, Poison II.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Sep 09 15:18:25 Now that things are back to normal, I really would like a reply from a Mod to my question regarding the rules.
Dakyron Member	Thu Sep 09 15:20:11 I hope he is persecuting you. I would do it too. Hell, if I were mod I'd start deleting ONLY you just to piss you off. You deserve it.
miltonfriedman Member	Thu Sep 09 15:21:01 Kargen made it clear that he won't delete anything unless people make consecutive posts with identical content. And doing so would result in their deletion. I know you are unhappy about this as you can no longer keep posting "there is your sign" crap continuously when you troll.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Sep 09 15:25:11 Dakyron, then that is probably why you are not a Mod. You are mentally unfit for the job, too unstable.
Jewgle Member	Thu Sep 09 15:25:49 Says the person who faked their death....
J.B. Member	Thu Sep 09 15:27:00 Dakyron don't you have a degree in law or criminal justice of some kind? Maybe you should have paid attention in class, because it seems the concept of what is "just" has escaped you.
the archivist Member	Thu Sep 09 15:27:25 Remember when rod got demodded for corruption: http://www...&thread=17025&showdeleted=true
Hot Rod Member	Thu Sep 09 15:27:35 Is that one of your multis Dak? How many you got? 150, 200?
miltonfriedman Member	Thu Sep 09 15:27:47 "You are mentally unfit for the job, too unstable." I am only advocating one person make a suicide attack, perhaps two. -American Tabliban Hot Rod
J.B. Member	Thu Sep 09 15:32:22 In addition to being a Nazi, Hot Rod is a fucking racist? JEEZUS CHRIST HOT ROD YOU FUCKING NAZI RACIST! And to think you gave me shit because I insulted some Jewie Jews!
J.B. Member	Thu Sep 09 15:33:18 I was starting to think thou dost protest too much about my Jewie jew insults. Now I know why. You condemned me because you yourself are a Nazi deep down?
Signal 2 member	Thu Sep 09 15:37:20 Um, weren't you asked to condense your threads?
Dakyron Member	Thu Sep 09 15:44:36 "Is that one of your multis Dak? How many you got? 150, 200? " I dont have any multis. Hell, I barely even post here anymore, why would I need multis? I made milton bradley as a joke. Thats the only multi I have ever made and I admitted it was a multi without hesitation. "Dakyron don't you have a degree in law or criminal justice of some kind? Maybe you should have paid attention in class, because it seems the concept of what is "just" has escaped you. " WTF? No. I work in IT, doing software development.
Signal 2 member	Thu Sep 09 15:47:57 I have the degree in CJ.
J.B. Member	Thu Sep 09 15:49:54 Signal 2: I was asked about that, and I *AGREED* to it. The spammer went back in the archives and topped off all my old threads making it look like I wasn't complying. Then Camaban came on, and deleted everything.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Sep 09 15:51:59 J.B., are you losing it completely? Asgard posted this: Ban JB and HR Asgard Member Thu Sep 09 12:17:28 Both are the same one. Both spammed the forum to death as criticism of mods. same tactic, same behaviour. So I told *HIM* Not all Jews, just *HIM* to, "Asgard, why don't you go suicide a Palestinian grade school?" *He* insulted me so I insulted *HIM* back. So you stick your nose in the next persons ass and start dancing a conga line about how how I hate *ALL* Jews. Damn man, no wonder everyone thinks you are stupid. But then, most of them are just as stupid as you are.
Adolf Hitler Member	Thu Sep 09 15:54:09 what the fuck, this fake argument between rod and JB? Now I really AM wondering if they are the same poster...
Signal 2 member	Thu Sep 09 15:56:28 "The spammer went back in the archives and topped off all my old threads making it look like I wasn't complying. Then Camaban came on, and deleted everything. " Yeah, I am pretty sure Camaban is intelligent enough to be able to decipher the difference. There is more to the story, more than I care to know. Anyways, hate it for ya.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Sep 09 15:56:50 So says Adolph Hitler/miltonfriedman/Milton Bradly/Renzo Marques=z.
Adolf Hitler Member	Thu Sep 09 15:58:41 ^ You sound *exactly* like JB
Signal 2 member	Thu Sep 09 15:59:20 I'm sorry that made me laugh.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Sep 09 16:02:24 My last was hor AH, obviously. AH, and you look exactly like miltonfriedman/Milton Bradly/Renzo Marques.
Dakyron Member	Thu Sep 09 16:04:02 They are all different people Hot Rod. Renzo is a racist/loser from Ohio, milton is a retarded loner from maryland, and milton is a troll account anyone can use. Adolph Hitler is masterbates.
Adolf Hitler Member	Thu Sep 09 16:05:11 ^ Lovely example of the case mentioned in the logic thread. Thanks lol "I like Roddys victimization troll logic, where when he gets called out for something he did, he's allowed to accuse you of the same thing, even though you didnt do it. Example of the world according to Rod (AKA Car Thief): Cop to car theif: "Im arresting you because you just stole a car" Car theif to cop: "No, I'm arresting YOU because YOU just stole a car" Cop: "huh? What are you, nuts? I didnt steal a car" Car thief: "Oh I see, so only you get to accuse me of stealing a car?" Cop: "Wtf are you talking about?" Car thief: "Simple. If you insult and slur my name why shouldnt I be allowed to do the same to you?" Cop: "Because you ARE a thief and I'm NOT?" Car thief: "There you go again. YOU'RE a thief" Cop: "Listen, I didnt steal a car, you did." Car thief: "No, YOU listen. You stole a car and now Im arresting you" Cop: "You fucking idiot" *shoots car thief* "
miltonfriedman Member	Thu Sep 09 16:11:15 dakyron is a chubby hubby. I will refrain from linking a picture of his fat-ass wife.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Sep 09 16:12:45 AH, tyhat is a *PERFECT* example of what I am subjected to when I try to have a serious conversation with some of you turds. Thanks for posting it, you gave me another good laugh at the expense of your "intellect."
Adolf Hitler Member	Thu Sep 09 16:14:42 ^ Another wonderful example lol
miltonfriedman Member	Thu Sep 09 16:14:56 Sorry, but you scuttled your chance for having a "serious" conversation by either opening a thread with an insulting title or littering your posts with racist remarks.
Adolf Hitler Member	Thu Sep 09 16:17:07 ^^ oh the irony Hot Rod Member Mon Dec 28 20:13:49 This is Hot Rods brother. He wanted me to let you know if anything happened to him. He had a massive stroke Christmas Eve and passed away early Christmas morning. We had him creamated today.
Dickhead UPer Member	Thu Sep 09 16:17:09 No, you have made inflammatory titles in threads.
miltonfriedman Member	Thu Sep 09 16:23:03 HR, part of being an adult and a welcomed member to any community, online or not, requires you to manage the expectations of others, not just your own. You may have believed that presuming "foreigners" to be ignorant of American idioms to be "helpful," but it is usually considered to be quite rude by most people. The same goes when you advocate an eradication of 80% of the world's Muslim population. I should have just trolled you, but I am writing an even-handed reply instead. I believe what I just typed resonates with many posters here, so take it with what you will.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Sep 09 16:23:29 When you use a thread title that was not intended to be offensive as an excuse for a flame attack that says much more about your character than just your sensitivity.
miltonfriedman Member	Thu Sep 09 16:26:09 I have just said it and I will say it again: Being an adult requires you to manage OTHER PEOPLE's expectations, not just your own. How YOU think your title sounds is inconsequential to the feelings of the targeted audience and those who read the said title.
kargen Member	Thu Sep 09 16:28:36 J.B. I don't know why your posts were deleted in that thread unless a mod threatened you with delte on sight and you didn't heed the warning. I would delete the posts by miltonfriedman about wife and kids if they were posted one after another. As they are now it is borderline, but where does it stop. I have some that follow me around (not as tenatious as your fans seem to be) and posts misrepresentations of what I have said in the past. Hot Rod can't make a post without somebody mentioning pediophilia. RoB will always be haunted by queries about water. If I delete single posts that irritate you I would need to do that for everyone and then what we end up with is a censored forum. If it gets so that it is more disruptive than just a damn nuciance then I can feel better about deleting it. We just have to accept there is at least one asshole here with several accounts that likes attention and tries to find the right buttons to push.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Thu Sep 09 16:40:52 J.B.'s actions clearly warrant a delete all. "all" meaning exactly that.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Sep 09 16:48:00 mf - How YOU think your title sounds is inconsequential to the feelings of the targeted audience and those who read the said title. I was speaking English, I have no idea what you people were speaking, but in English 'foreigner' is not a slur. It merely indicate someone from another country, just as I am a foreigner to them. Merriam-Webster: Definition of FOREIGNER 1 : a person belonging to or owing allegiance to a foreign country 2 chiefly dialect : one not native to a place or community : stranger 1c Examples of FOREIGNER 1. <I can tell by your accent you're a foreigner in these parts.> Dictionary.Com: â??noun 1. a person not native to or naturalized in the country or jurisdiction under consideration; alien. 2. a person from outside one's community. 3. a thing produced in or brought from a foreign country. 4. Nautical . a foreign vessel. You people are just so fucked up in the head you have lost all touch with common sense.
Dickhead UPer Member	Thu Sep 09 16:49:48 You were using it as a slur. The content of your thread emphsized that notion. Troll.
Troll Rod Member	Thu Sep 09 16:49:59 I am not a troll!
earthpig GTFO HOer	Thu Sep 09 16:50:33 So long as JB's transgressions remain greater than any alleged transgressions of anyone else, that will be what my opinion is centered on. The "show deleted posts" button and "land of deleted threads" means that wrongfully deleted posts and threads are trivial. Spam attacks break both the readability of threads, AND break the ability of the community to readily access wrongfully deleted posts/threads. The *only* thing potentially more damaging to UP than spam attacks would be a botnet DoS attack. Camaban is accused of deleting posts and threads for no good reason. He may or may not be guilty. I can't tell because there is no date or time recorded for when a post/thread is deleted. Because a Delete All has been clearly warranted for J.B., I have no reason to believe any posts or threads where deleted outside of that context. In order for me to be able to see for myself, someone that hasn't been subject to a justified delete all in recent memory needs to have had posts/threads deleted. J.B., for you to have any credibility you need to NOT frequently engage in actions that warrant a delete all. After you've earned a delete all, the only thing I can do is look at all your spam and go "duh, *of course* all of his posts and threads have been deleted. it isn't reasonable to expect the mods to individually sift through them all and do it manually."
J.B. Member	Thu Sep 09 16:53:05 EP, you weren't around enough when it was happening. Anyway, I just pulled up a few threads that AH spammed the shit out of. He did it, its a fact, and he has been doing it for a very long time. Since September of 2009, as near as I can tell. It is possible that AH is poison, although I'm not certain of that, as their style is somewhat different.
J.B. Member	Thu Sep 09 16:53:29 And yes, spam fucks up the board. That's kinda why it is spam.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Thu Sep 09 16:55:20 Well, stop it. Forever. Give your word, and I will take it as such. Then, we can engage in discussion about less serious transgressions.
miltonfriedman Member	Thu Sep 09 16:55:27 "I was speaking English, I have no idea what you people were speaking, but in English 'foreigner' is not a slur. It merely indicate someone from another country, just as I am a foreigner to them." I wish not to rehash this any longer as it is not germane to this thread and it has already brought to your attention. The fact that you continue to become obsessive over this despite being criticized all over shows that you will keep trolling and will not change your behavior. The problem is of course not with the word "foreigner" in your title, but with your claim that foreigners should "appreciate" your offer to "help" them learning American idioms. I will end it here and make no further replies. If you enjoy being a target for constant trolling (which I secretly suspect that you do as you relish in public's attention as you keep bringing up this issue), then proceed as before and continue to feign innocence. Or change your behavior and others will reciprocate.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Sep 09 17:26:57 mf - I wish not to rehash this any longer Of course not because you just got your fucking ass kicked to the Max, >>>AGAIN<<<.
Cold Rod Member	Thu Sep 09 17:28:30 This guy has more of respect by others A rumor circulated on the Internet and by several media outlets that Jones was convicted on child pornography charges, but it proved untrue. http://abc...n-day/story?id=11575665&page=2 The same cannot be said of Hot Rod.
Camaban Moderator	Thu Sep 09 17:28:46 >>I'd like an answer from Camaban on what we're going to do about this. << I'm going to keep deleting your shit.
J.B. Member	Thu Sep 09 17:29:57 You asked for it, homey.
Wrath of Orion Member	Thu Sep 09 17:33:18 Permaban J.B. This is getting ridiculous. I know the mods don't have the power to do it, but see if you can get TC to stop being an utter pussy and just do it.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Sep 09 17:34:09 Oh God please give it up JB. Just behave yourself.
Dickhead UPer Member	Thu Sep 09 17:35:40 TC doesn't believe in PB's and rightfully so. There are very few things that should be considered for a person to be permabanned. Him spamming the board like he has been doing falls into a category in my opinion of just fucking delete anything he posts. This was used on poison, it was funny and the bullshit stopped.
Dickhead UPer Member	Thu Sep 09 17:36:15 ^doesn't fall into that category.
miltonfriedman Member	Thu Sep 09 18:42:44 "mf - I wish not to rehash this any longer Of course not because you just got your fucking ass kicked to the Max, >>>AGAIN<<<." And your inability to respond in a civil manner even when others attempt to do so is another contributing factor.
PhunkyPhishStyle Member	Thu Sep 09 18:54:40 JB just stop posting under your fucking multi Alex and we wont see these problems. Fuckin A bro.
PhunkyPhishStyle Member	Thu Sep 09 18:54:40 JB just stop posting under your fucking multi Alex and we wont see these problems. Fuckin A bro.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Sep 09 19:17:22 mf - And your inability to respond in a civil manner... HAH! That's rich you degenerate freak.
smegma stream Member	Thu Sep 09 20:29:07 Hey J.B., FUCK YOU ROUNDEYE!
miltonfriedman Member	Thu Sep 09 22:03:36 "mf - And your inability to respond in a civil manner... HAH! That's rich you degenerate freak." Like I said, you are carrying too many chips on your shoulder and if your default mode of response is flaming, then be prepared for an unwelcoming environment. But don't feign innocence and wonder why you are met with a hostile tone. You can learn to manage the expectations of others, or the things will go on as before.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Sep 09 22:05:42 I fully expect things to go on as before anyway. I certainly don't expect you to grow a set of manners overnight.
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