Utopia Talk / Politics / So Much For Transparancy

Hot Rod Member	Wed Jul 28 10:07:32 They just announced on FOX breaking news that the new 2000 page Finance Bill makes The Securities and Exchange Commission exempt from The Freedom of Information Act.
Trolling UPer Member	Wed Jul 28 10:09:59 Source.
Hot Rod Member	Wed Jul 28 10:12:06 FOX breaking news Turn on your TV.
Trolling UPer Member	Wed Jul 28 10:13:00 Source it. Not long ago you got onto a pig for not having a source even though it stated it. Source it.
Hot Rod Member	Wed Jul 28 10:15:18 breaking *FUCKING* news
Trolling UPer Member	Wed Jul 28 10:20:10 SOURCE IT!
Trolling UPer Member	Wed Jul 28 10:47:17 Fucking hypocrite loses. This thread can be deleted now.
Hot Rod Member	Wed Jul 28 15:26:26 ^-Must be AH. No one else is that fucking stupid.
Trolly McCool Member	Wed Jul 28 15:30:39 90% of the members of UP are fucking stupid, so I dont know. It could be anyone.
Trolling UPer Member	Wed Jul 28 18:22:16 Why am I stupid? Because you made a thread without posting a source? Did or did you not the other day when Truther\Kreel made a thread about a pig's abusing their authority and another pig was defending them and posted an article giving more details of the account, criticised him for not posting the source. Even the the article specided the source including the author? All I said was for you to post the source. Don't get mad because you're a hypocritical douchebag.
Trolling UPer Member	Wed Jul 28 18:23:04 *specified
Hot Rod Member	Wed Jul 28 18:24:49 >-All I said was for you to post the source. I posted the source shit for brains. "FOX breaking news" Now go crawl back under your rock.
Trolling UPer Member	Wed Jul 28 18:27:13 And the pigster did too. But you continued to be critical. Now go continue your hypocritical ways.
Hot Rod Member	Wed Jul 28 18:31:17 How do you figure? Wed Jul 28 10:15:18 breaking *FUCKING* news Wed Jul 28 10:33:42 SEC exempt from FOIA? With source I had left the apartment before he posted the article. FOX was probably typing the article when I made my OP.
Firestorm Phoenix Member	Wed Jul 28 18:40:16 http://www...law-exempts-public-disclosure/ There.
Hot Rod Member	Wed Jul 28 18:44:18 Yeah, that is the one Rugian posted.
Trolling UPer Member	Wed Jul 28 18:44:45 I don't care about your excuse for not posting the source. The point is if you're going to be critical of others of one thing you shouldn't do it. Okay hypocrtie? This isn't a hard thing to comprehend. It took him no time to post it with a source. And if they were referring it verbatim "so much for transparency" most likely scenario is that it was already posted. And all you had to do is take your lame, sorry, hypocritical ass and find the source and post it as you have been critical of others not doing expecial when the content they post specified where it was published. Hypocrite.
Hot Rod Member	Wed Jul 28 19:13:40 You are dumber than a pile of shit, you do know that don't you? As for "so much for transparency" I have used thar very same phrase several times before. I left my apartment 18 minutes before he posted the article. He posted it 26 minutes after I posted it was breaking news. Why don't you go ask him what took so long for him to post it. BTW, do you have any idea what 'breaking news' means?
Rugian Member	Wed Jul 28 19:28:50 Mods, please delete this thread, as it is a duplicate of my own and has no citations. Trolly, tell Hot Rod if he asks that the reason that I posted the article several minutes after this thread was created was because I only say the thread several minutes after it was created. The actual article had been on Google News for about a half hour by the time I posted it.
Hot Rod Member	Wed Jul 28 19:40:55 Screw you both. I had been watching FOX for five hours and I posted at the first mention of it. To me that is Breaking News.
Hot Rod Member	Wed Jul 28 19:44:58
Trolling UPer Member	Wed Jul 28 19:50:44 Don't care if it was breaking news. Post the source next time. You were critical of another poster about it. Don't be a hypocrite.
kargen Member	Wed Jul 28 20:45:24 I have some bad news for you trolling dipshit. "FOX breaking news" is a fucking source. That you can't readily google it doesn't mean shit. Not all sources are on the internet, sometimes you have to get your ignorant ass out from in front of the computer screen to see what is going on. If I tell you it is going to rain, you ask me for a source and I tell you the crazy cat lady down the street told me that is a fucking source. Probably not a good source, and you can bitch about the reliability of that source if you wish, but you can't correctly say that no source has been provided.
Trolling UPer Member	Wed Jul 28 20:54:30 Listen kargen dipshit. If good ol' hot rod is going to fault another poster for doing the same thing; posting any type of news or article with a source stated and but no link, then it is only fair that he should post a link to the source. Rugian found it with no problems. Besides what this thread offered was little to no information to even warrant a discussion. But don't sit there with and think that if its fair to fault another poster for not providing a source even though it was stated, then its fair game when this fucking hypocrite does it. Now I'm sure you're done defending hot rod and all. But the point remains, don't be a hypocrite. Oh and another thing, if he can offer so little of topic from what he saw on tv, it would have taken him approximately 4 more seconds to type he does have any more information and he would try to source more about it later or request another poster to do so. Simple. As. That.
kargen Member	Wed Jul 28 21:07:19 Two wrongs don't make a right, just makes you look all ignorant and shit to drag what happened in another thread to a new one with a different topic. "and but no link" ask for a link then. A source was provided. If Hotrod did the same thing you are doing here then he is also a dipshit. That fair enough for you? "Now I'm sure you're done defending hot rod and all." I'm not defending Hotrod. I am pointing out a source was provided. It has been a thorn in my side for some time now that people seem to think if they can't find it in the first four google hits then it didn't happen. "it would have taken him approximately 4 more seconds to type he does have any more information" You didn't ask for more information though, did you. Nope you asked for a source and one was provided. Simple as that.
Trolling UPer Member	Wed Jul 28 21:24:20 "Two wrongs don't make a right" Principles. "....asked for a source and one was provided." Not in a sense that rod wanted the other poster to do in the other thread the other day. Principles. It was make a point.
Hot Rod Member	Wed Jul 28 21:34:15 Trolling UPer, are you talking about the time Seb quoted someone from a Congressional Committee and would not even tell me what committee or even what day? Do you have any idea what goes into The Congressional Record? Everything.
Trolling UPer Member	Wed Jul 28 21:35:55 The thread was specified already. Look over it again.
Hot Rod Member	Wed Jul 28 21:45:41 Huh? What the hell are you talking about?
Signal 2 member	Wed Jul 28 22:03:00 I remember the thread vaguely. It was posted by truther about the father being arrested for obstruction of justice. But that article he posted didn't give the full details. I posted an article that had it but I was on my blackberry so hard to get links to work for me correctly. But I felt the title of it, the author's name, and where it was published was enough. It was something tribune. But anyways long story short. Hot Rod as well as truther wanted sources and I repeated the information from the article and then hot rod said something to the affect of how its not normally acceptable here that I needed to privide the actual link to source my article. That's all I remember. But yeah, I thought it was pretty weak too.
kargen Member	Wed Jul 28 22:16:13 okay two bad principles don't make a right. "that I needed to privide the actual link to source my article." So it isn't quite as bad as Trolling dipshit is claiming and not really the same thing at all. THere is after a difference in being asked to provide a link and provide a source. That being said, yeah providing the source should be enough especially when providing everything they need to quickly find the information themselves. It gets kind of irritating when you quote from a book and provide the name of that book and the response you get back is "source?" or "link?" Or the ever popular "I just heard this on the radio..." followed by "link?". If people are interested in the topic they can look it up themselves when a source other than a link is provided. If they are not intreested enough to bother doing something so simple as a quick google then maybe they should just stay the fuck out of the conversation.
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Wed Jul 28 22:20:34 "I had been watching FOX for five hours" did no one else laugh?
Signal 2 member	Wed Jul 28 22:32:10 I totally agree kargen. I didn't sweat it. I considered it petty. But went ahead and offered the link.
Hot Rod Member	Wed Jul 28 22:33:41 Hood, what do you watch between 5AM and 10AM in the morning when you are interested in current affairs?
Hot Rod Member	Wed Jul 28 22:34:58 And as I recall I thanked you didn't I?
Signal 2 member	Wed Jul 28 22:44:33 To be honest I'm not sure, you may have, I'm sure it was sincere though.
Trolling UPer Member	Wed Jul 28 23:41:08 I can't believe how dense some of you are. The piggy just confirmed what transpired. But let me spell it out for you kargen and rod. I knew it was breaking news. I was watching it the entire time while I was trolling rod. There was a point to my madness. I am well aware that it was a source. I wasn't disputing it. I was making the point that just the other day S2 did the same thing practically. Posted informmation which had a source but no link attached. Pedo rod threw a fit about it until the link was provided. Hope this clears it up.
kargen Member	Thu Jul 29 00:23:05 " Hope this clears it up. " It does. You were acting like a dipshit. What remains to be seen is how much was actual acting and how much is just you being a natural dipshit.
Paramount Member	Thu Jul 29 04:23:09 "I had been watching FOX for five hours" - Hot Rod You need to seek help. There must be a clinic around that can cure your bad and destructive habit.
Hot Rod Member	Thu Jul 29 06:46:36 Paramount what do you watch between 5AM and 10AM in the morning when you are interested in current affairs?
Jesse Malcolm Barack Member	Thu Jul 29 06:49:18 dude you are seriously lacking brain cells why are you killing what you have left by watching fox?
Hot Rod Member	Thu Jul 29 06:52:05 Because I am struggling to not be like you.
Dead Rod Member	Sun Aug 15 12:01:49 'Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge Wed Jul 28 22:20:34 "I had been watching FOX for five hours" did no one else laugh? ' What is so funny about that?
Renzo Marquez Member	Sun Aug 15 12:27:31 I had a chuckle. And the funniest part is, his post was at around 6:40 or 7:40 PM local time. He undoubtedly watched FOX News' entire primetime lineup after his post. So basically, he watches 8 hours of FOX News per day.
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