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Aeros
Member Fri Jul 23 22:18:56
I felt this deserved its own thread, just for how brazen it is. The North Koreans are now saying if the US does not call of its exercise, they'll attack it with their nuclear weapons.

http://www.../23/north.korea.threat/?hpt=T1

Hanoi, Vietnam (CNN) -- North Korea on Saturday heightened its threats against upcoming U.S.-supported military exercises after talks over the sinking of a South Korean warship.

North Korea "will legitimately counter with [its] powerful nuclear deterrence the largest-ever nuclear war exercises to be staged by the U.S. and the South Korean puppet forces," the state-run KCNA news agency said.

Earlier, the isolated communist nation vowed a "physical response" to massive U.S.-South Korean military drills set to begin Sunday. The U.S. Defense Department said the drills are in response to the sinking of the South Korean warship Cheonan and are intended to send a strong message to Pyongyang to stop "provocative and warlike acts."

At a regional security conference Friday, North Korea lashed out at the impending exercise.

"There will be a physical response against the threat imposed by the United States militarily," North Korea spokesman Ri Tong Il said outside the Association of Southeast Asian Nations meeting in Hanoi, Vietnam.

Two U.S. military officials told there was no sign of significant troop movement in North Korea.

About 8,000 military personnel from the United States and South Korea are scheduled to participate in the joint military exercises.

Meanwhile Friday, in the demilitarized zone between the two Koreas, officers from the North sat down for talks about the Cheonan incident with their counterparts in the U.S.-led United Nations Command.

During the almost two-hour meeting in the international truce town of Panmunjom, the U.N. Command reminded the North Koreans of the Security Council's condemnation this month of the Cheonan attack.

The Security Council did not mention North Korea by name but condemned the attack strongly, called for "full adherence" to the armistice agreement that halted fighting in the Korean War in 1953 and encouraged "the settlement of outstanding issues on the Korean peninsula by peaceful means."

An international inquiry found North Korea culpable for the March attack that killed 46 South Korean sailors. But North Korea denies a role in the incident, which elevated tension between the two enemies.

North Korea demanded again Friday that it be allowed to conduct its own investigation of the Cheonan's sinking and said the upcoming war games are being conducted under false pretext.

"The U.S. forces side would be seriously mistaken if it calculates it can browbeat [North Korea] through large-scale war exercises," the state-run KCNA news agency said. "It should immediately stop the [anti-North Korean] nuclear war racket."

"[This] double-dealing attitude is a dangerous one of driving the situation on the Korean Peninsula to a war phase," KCNA said.

At the ASEAN meeting, nation after nation expressed deep regrets and offered condolences to the South Koreans. The United States has accused North Korea of aggressive behavior and imposed new sanctions Wednesday.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton reiterated U.S. support for South Korea on Friday.

"Here in Asia, an isolated and belligerent North Korea has embarked on a campaign of provocative, dangerous behavior," she said in Hanoi, Vietnam.

Later, after a repatriation ceremony for the remains of three soldiers who died in the Vietnam War, Clinton said the door remains open for dialogue if North Korea commits to abandoning its nuclear weapons program.

"We would love for them to have the same opportunities that the people of South Korea have been able to enjoy for the last 60 years," Clinton said. "So, it is distressing when North Korea continues its threats and causes so much anxiety among its neighbors and the larger region."

Ri described the planned U.S.-South Korea joint military exercise as "another example of a hostile policy" against North Korea.

"It is a grave threat to the Korean peninsula and also to the region of Asia as a whole," he said.

He said the exercise is a threat to North Korea's sovereignty and security.

The military exercise, dubbed Invincible Spirit, is scheduled to run from Sunday through Wednesday. In addition to the 8,000 personnel involved, military officials say, it will include 20 ships and submarines and about 200 aircraft.

The exercises are to take place in the Sea of Japan on South Korea's east coast and the Yellow Sea on the west coast, according to a joint U.S. and South Korean statement.

China has objected to war games in the Yellow Sea, so close to its coastline. And that is what bothers North Korea as well, said a University of Georgia professor who returned two weeks ago from his 52nd trip to Pyongyang.

"I think it's a bad idea," said Han Park, who helped arrange former President Carter's visit to North Korea in 1994 and is the only American to have visited the rogue nation since the Cheonan incident.

Park said the United States should never underestimate the resolve of the North Korean military, one that is further emboldened now by Chinese opposition to the military drills.

"I will hold my breath if this takes place anywhere near the west coast," he said.

Dickhead UPer
Member Fri Jul 23 22:20:02
It's because Obama is president.

Im better then you
Member Fri Jul 23 22:24:08
Nuclear war is the logical response to a military exercise in a neighboring country.

Aeros
Member Fri Jul 23 22:25:51
They must live in a parallel universe if they think the US will back down because someone threatens them with Nukes. If anything that means we have no choice but to carry on with the exercise.

Im better then you
Member Fri Jul 23 22:30:01
Maybe if your a baby killing moron, but for a normal person the choice is obvious stop the exercise.

How much is this military exercise costing us?

I bet it's more then what we can afford.

Im better then you
Member Fri Jul 23 22:30:58
Also a preventing a nuclear war will save 5 billion jobs world wide.

Aeros
Member Fri Jul 23 22:31:17
Yes, the US should just bow to the wishes of every tin pot dictator with the bomb. That will make us SO much more secure.

Dickhead UPer
Member Fri Jul 23 22:31:58
"Im better then you"

Hey, did you realize your name doesn't make any sense?

Firestorm Phoenix
Member Fri Jul 23 22:43:10
It's an amusing oxymoron.

PhunkyPhishStyle
Member Fri Jul 23 22:43:59
"Yes, the US should just bow to the wishes of every tin pot dictator with the bomb. That will make us SO much more secure."

The US should just not be militarily present in regions where tin pot dictators have bombs. That will make us SO much more secure.

'Fixd for the fucking warmongering retard.

Aeros
Member Fri Jul 23 22:45:36
So, we should just stand by and let the worlds 5th largest economy get trashed?

PhunkyPhishStyle
Member Fri Jul 23 22:46:01
It's embarrasing that dumb mother fuckers like Aeros actually occupy this nation.

Aeros
Member Fri Jul 23 22:46:21
*15th

PhunkyPhishStyle
Member Fri Jul 23 22:52:15
The world's 5th largest economy would be trashed by one of the world's shittiest?

Interesting. I guess anything is possible considering a couple of sand niggers with box cutters have fucked up one of the greatest nations in history pretty good.

Seriously though, what's the use in arguing with someone like you? You WANT a war with NK and support any move to make it happen, even if it means further causing harm to our nation in terms of blood and money. It's all just fapping material for you, isn't it?

PhunkyPhishStyle
Member Fri Jul 23 22:53:42
*15th. Doesn't change the statement.

mexicantornado
Member Fri Jul 23 22:59:38
Yes PPS, NK can destroy SK's economy for decades. Anyhow the North Korean's are seeing what sort of President Obama is. If he will limit the military exercise or go ahead with it completely, (stopping them entirely would be unacceptable in the states). We will see what happens, but I doubt the NK's will actually attack our fleet.

Course they are going through a power change and we have no idea who is in charge of NK right now. It'd be fucking crazy to wake up in a couple days and find out one of our fleets was destroyed by the North Koreans.

PhunkyPhishStyle
Member Fri Jul 23 23:03:59
"Yes PPS, NK can destroy SK's economy for decades."

- As if getting involved in a war with NK wouldn't wreck ours?

Aeros
Member Fri Jul 23 23:07:08
Most likely they will just set off another nuclear test. At the worst they may try and sink the George Washington, which could trigger a war. Which incidentally, I do want. North Korea is an abomination in the modern age that needs to be removed.

mexicantornado
Member Fri Jul 23 23:07:17
Not sure how it would wreck ours man. We will sink further into debt of course but what we spend on Iraq and Afghanistan is a fraction of what we spend on worthless shit stateside. Plus it depends what type of war we wage. If we launch a ground war it'll be a decade long exercise in patience. If we just do an air campaign a la kosovo it'll be brief and a poll booster for Obama. Assuming we win with minimal casualties and SK is not a smoking heap.

PhunkyPhishStyle
Member Fri Jul 23 23:23:54
"Which incidentally, I do want. North Korea is an abomination in the modern age that needs to be removed."

- Indeed. Like I said, anything to get your fap on.

Aeros
Member Fri Jul 23 23:26:54
Actually, my commander knows to deploy me if shit goes down in Korea. So if by fap you mean fight, then yes.

mexicantornado
Member Fri Jul 23 23:55:22
Right, because they would send you and you alone. You are so fucking retarded.

jergul
Member Sat Jul 24 08:08:01
"Right, because they would send you and you alone. You are so fucking retarded."

Prolly a number of forum posters that would support that plan :)

Adolf Hitler
Member Sat Jul 24 08:10:01
Please aim the nukes at Oklahoma and Kansas, the two stupidest places in the developed world.

Aeros
Member Sat Jul 24 08:50:15
"Right, because they would send you and you alone. You are so fucking retarded."

Dude, I'm a reservist in a high need MOS. I would be sent to augment an active duty unit.

Garyd
Member Sat Jul 24 09:09:23
That is of course assuming that the north Koreans manage to get a nuke missle off the ground, that such a missle would land anywhere near it's intended target and that the same SM-3 missle modified which shot down a space satellite can't handle a far more primitive Korean theater ballistic missle.

Garyd
Member Sat Jul 24 09:10:13
That is of course assuming that the north Koreans manage to get a nuke missle off the ground, that such a missle would land anywhere near it's intended target and that the same SM-3 missle modified which shot down a space satellite can't handle a far more primitive Korean theater ballistic missle or for that matter be dealt with summarily by the patriot batteries on station in Korea and Japan

Gary d
Member Sat Jul 24 09:14:44
That is of course assuming that the north Koreans manage to get a nuke missle off the ground, that such a missle would land anywhere near it's intended target and that the same SM-3 missle modified which shot down a space satellite can't handle a far more primitive Korean theater ballistic missle or for that matter be dealt with summarily by the patriot batteries on station in Korea and Japan Or for that matter such a missile would land near the SM-3 missile modified to shoot the primitive Korean threater that would land near its modified intended target or the ballistic missle for that matter the space satellite which can't be a handle or patriot batteries

Garyd
Member Sat Jul 24 09:20:40
What the hell? How did that happen I only hit enter once. And the last one is completely garbled. Again what the hell?

Adolf Hitler
Member Sat Jul 24 09:28:36
Lmfao...you incredible neanderthal idiot...

Garyd
Member Sat Jul 24 09:30:50
Okay you explain it to me genious.

jergul
Member Sat Jul 24 11:10:44
You did not write the post by Gary [space] d?

Paramount
Member Sat Jul 24 11:12:34
rofl!

so what
Member Sat Jul 24 11:46:10
How ridiculously rude of these gooks. America would probably at the most only imply the possible use of nuclear arms if the Chinese, Russian or Iranian navy would hold excercises with the Cuban or Venezuelan navy in the Caribbean.

Adolf Hitler
Member Sun Jul 25 04:58:15
"Is North Korea the last hardcore communist state?

No. Pyongyang struck communism from its constitution in 2009. Informed observers compare North Korea to the militaristic Japan of the 1930s: It worships its leader like a god; prioritizes its military in all policies; feels threatened by the wider world; is virulently nationalistic; and is accused of abusing human rights."

http://edi...r.background/index.html?hpt=T1

Wow, sounds just like the resident US right wing extremist mob.

Canadian
Member Sun Jul 25 14:27:25
"Right, because they would send you and you alone."

- Army of one, MT, army of one.

Paramount
Member Tue Jul 27 04:21:49
So.... Is NK gonna use their nukes or not? The exercise is almost over soon, isn't it?

jergul
Member Tue Jul 27 04:23:41
The interesting thing will be to see when the next exercise is planned. NK may have mucked up future scheduals somewhat.

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Aeros Member	Fri Jul 23 22:18:56 I felt this deserved its own thread, just for how brazen it is. The North Koreans are now saying if the US does not call of its exercise, they'll attack it with their nuclear weapons. http://www.../23/north.korea.threat/?hpt=T1 Hanoi, Vietnam (CNN) -- North Korea on Saturday heightened its threats against upcoming U.S.-supported military exercises after talks over the sinking of a South Korean warship. North Korea "will legitimately counter with [its] powerful nuclear deterrence the largest-ever nuclear war exercises to be staged by the U.S. and the South Korean puppet forces," the state-run KCNA news agency said. Earlier, the isolated communist nation vowed a "physical response" to massive U.S.-South Korean military drills set to begin Sunday. The U.S. Defense Department said the drills are in response to the sinking of the South Korean warship Cheonan and are intended to send a strong message to Pyongyang to stop "provocative and warlike acts." At a regional security conference Friday, North Korea lashed out at the impending exercise. "There will be a physical response against the threat imposed by the United States militarily," North Korea spokesman Ri Tong Il said outside the Association of Southeast Asian Nations meeting in Hanoi, Vietnam. Two U.S. military officials told there was no sign of significant troop movement in North Korea. About 8,000 military personnel from the United States and South Korea are scheduled to participate in the joint military exercises. Meanwhile Friday, in the demilitarized zone between the two Koreas, officers from the North sat down for talks about the Cheonan incident with their counterparts in the U.S.-led United Nations Command. During the almost two-hour meeting in the international truce town of Panmunjom, the U.N. Command reminded the North Koreans of the Security Council's condemnation this month of the Cheonan attack. The Security Council did not mention North Korea by name but condemned the attack strongly, called for "full adherence" to the armistice agreement that halted fighting in the Korean War in 1953 and encouraged "the settlement of outstanding issues on the Korean peninsula by peaceful means." An international inquiry found North Korea culpable for the March attack that killed 46 South Korean sailors. But North Korea denies a role in the incident, which elevated tension between the two enemies. North Korea demanded again Friday that it be allowed to conduct its own investigation of the Cheonan's sinking and said the upcoming war games are being conducted under false pretext. "The U.S. forces side would be seriously mistaken if it calculates it can browbeat [North Korea] through large-scale war exercises," the state-run KCNA news agency said. "It should immediately stop the [anti-North Korean] nuclear war racket." "[This] double-dealing attitude is a dangerous one of driving the situation on the Korean Peninsula to a war phase," KCNA said. At the ASEAN meeting, nation after nation expressed deep regrets and offered condolences to the South Koreans. The United States has accused North Korea of aggressive behavior and imposed new sanctions Wednesday. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton reiterated U.S. support for South Korea on Friday. "Here in Asia, an isolated and belligerent North Korea has embarked on a campaign of provocative, dangerous behavior," she said in Hanoi, Vietnam. Later, after a repatriation ceremony for the remains of three soldiers who died in the Vietnam War, Clinton said the door remains open for dialogue if North Korea commits to abandoning its nuclear weapons program. "We would love for them to have the same opportunities that the people of South Korea have been able to enjoy for the last 60 years," Clinton said. "So, it is distressing when North Korea continues its threats and causes so much anxiety among its neighbors and the larger region." Ri described the planned U.S.-South Korea joint military exercise as "another example of a hostile policy" against North Korea. "It is a grave threat to the Korean peninsula and also to the region of Asia as a whole," he said. He said the exercise is a threat to North Korea's sovereignty and security. The military exercise, dubbed Invincible Spirit, is scheduled to run from Sunday through Wednesday. In addition to the 8,000 personnel involved, military officials say, it will include 20 ships and submarines and about 200 aircraft. The exercises are to take place in the Sea of Japan on South Korea's east coast and the Yellow Sea on the west coast, according to a joint U.S. and South Korean statement. China has objected to war games in the Yellow Sea, so close to its coastline. And that is what bothers North Korea as well, said a University of Georgia professor who returned two weeks ago from his 52nd trip to Pyongyang. "I think it's a bad idea," said Han Park, who helped arrange former President Carter's visit to North Korea in 1994 and is the only American to have visited the rogue nation since the Cheonan incident. Park said the United States should never underestimate the resolve of the North Korean military, one that is further emboldened now by Chinese opposition to the military drills. "I will hold my breath if this takes place anywhere near the west coast," he said.
Dickhead UPer Member	Fri Jul 23 22:20:02 It's because Obama is president.
Im better then you Member	Fri Jul 23 22:24:08 Nuclear war is the logical response to a military exercise in a neighboring country.
Aeros Member	Fri Jul 23 22:25:51 They must live in a parallel universe if they think the US will back down because someone threatens them with Nukes. If anything that means we have no choice but to carry on with the exercise.
Im better then you Member	Fri Jul 23 22:30:01 Maybe if your a baby killing moron, but for a normal person the choice is obvious stop the exercise. How much is this military exercise costing us? I bet it's more then what we can afford.
Im better then you Member	Fri Jul 23 22:30:58 Also a preventing a nuclear war will save 5 billion jobs world wide.
Aeros Member	Fri Jul 23 22:31:17 Yes, the US should just bow to the wishes of every tin pot dictator with the bomb. That will make us SO much more secure.
Dickhead UPer Member	Fri Jul 23 22:31:58 "Im better then you" Hey, did you realize your name doesn't make any sense?
Firestorm Phoenix Member	Fri Jul 23 22:43:10 It's an amusing oxymoron.
PhunkyPhishStyle Member	Fri Jul 23 22:43:59 "Yes, the US should just bow to the wishes of every tin pot dictator with the bomb. That will make us SO much more secure." The US should just not be militarily present in regions where tin pot dictators have bombs. That will make us SO much more secure. 'Fixd for the fucking warmongering retard.
Aeros Member	Fri Jul 23 22:45:36 So, we should just stand by and let the worlds 5th largest economy get trashed?
PhunkyPhishStyle Member	Fri Jul 23 22:46:01 It's embarrasing that dumb mother fuckers like Aeros actually occupy this nation.
Aeros Member	Fri Jul 23 22:46:21 *15th
PhunkyPhishStyle Member	Fri Jul 23 22:52:15 The world's 5th largest economy would be trashed by one of the world's shittiest? Interesting. I guess anything is possible considering a couple of sand niggers with box cutters have fucked up one of the greatest nations in history pretty good. Seriously though, what's the use in arguing with someone like you? You WANT a war with NK and support any move to make it happen, even if it means further causing harm to our nation in terms of blood and money. It's all just fapping material for you, isn't it?
PhunkyPhishStyle Member	Fri Jul 23 22:53:42 *15th. Doesn't change the statement.
mexicantornado Member	Fri Jul 23 22:59:38 Yes PPS, NK can destroy SK's economy for decades. Anyhow the North Korean's are seeing what sort of President Obama is. If he will limit the military exercise or go ahead with it completely, (stopping them entirely would be unacceptable in the states). We will see what happens, but I doubt the NK's will actually attack our fleet. Course they are going through a power change and we have no idea who is in charge of NK right now. It'd be fucking crazy to wake up in a couple days and find out one of our fleets was destroyed by the North Koreans.
PhunkyPhishStyle Member	Fri Jul 23 23:03:59 "Yes PPS, NK can destroy SK's economy for decades." - As if getting involved in a war with NK wouldn't wreck ours?
Aeros Member	Fri Jul 23 23:07:08 Most likely they will just set off another nuclear test. At the worst they may try and sink the George Washington, which could trigger a war. Which incidentally, I do want. North Korea is an abomination in the modern age that needs to be removed.
mexicantornado Member	Fri Jul 23 23:07:17 Not sure how it would wreck ours man. We will sink further into debt of course but what we spend on Iraq and Afghanistan is a fraction of what we spend on worthless shit stateside. Plus it depends what type of war we wage. If we launch a ground war it'll be a decade long exercise in patience. If we just do an air campaign a la kosovo it'll be brief and a poll booster for Obama. Assuming we win with minimal casualties and SK is not a smoking heap.
PhunkyPhishStyle Member	Fri Jul 23 23:23:54 "Which incidentally, I do want. North Korea is an abomination in the modern age that needs to be removed." - Indeed. Like I said, anything to get your fap on.
Aeros Member	Fri Jul 23 23:26:54 Actually, my commander knows to deploy me if shit goes down in Korea. So if by fap you mean fight, then yes.
mexicantornado Member	Fri Jul 23 23:55:22 Right, because they would send you and you alone. You are so fucking retarded.
jergul Member	Sat Jul 24 08:08:01 "Right, because they would send you and you alone. You are so fucking retarded." Prolly a number of forum posters that would support that plan :)
Adolf Hitler Member	Sat Jul 24 08:10:01 Please aim the nukes at Oklahoma and Kansas, the two stupidest places in the developed world.
Aeros Member	Sat Jul 24 08:50:15 "Right, because they would send you and you alone. You are so fucking retarded." Dude, I'm a reservist in a high need MOS. I would be sent to augment an active duty unit.
Garyd Member	Sat Jul 24 09:09:23 That is of course assuming that the north Koreans manage to get a nuke missle off the ground, that such a missle would land anywhere near it's intended target and that the same SM-3 missle modified which shot down a space satellite can't handle a far more primitive Korean theater ballistic missle.
Garyd Member	Sat Jul 24 09:10:13 That is of course assuming that the north Koreans manage to get a nuke missle off the ground, that such a missle would land anywhere near it's intended target and that the same SM-3 missle modified which shot down a space satellite can't handle a far more primitive Korean theater ballistic missle or for that matter be dealt with summarily by the patriot batteries on station in Korea and Japan
Gary d Member	Sat Jul 24 09:14:44 That is of course assuming that the north Koreans manage to get a nuke missle off the ground, that such a missle would land anywhere near it's intended target and that the same SM-3 missle modified which shot down a space satellite can't handle a far more primitive Korean theater ballistic missle or for that matter be dealt with summarily by the patriot batteries on station in Korea and Japan Or for that matter such a missile would land near the SM-3 missile modified to shoot the primitive Korean threater that would land near its modified intended target or the ballistic missle for that matter the space satellite which can't be a handle or patriot batteries
Garyd Member	Sat Jul 24 09:20:40 What the hell? How did that happen I only hit enter once. And the last one is completely garbled. Again what the hell?
Adolf Hitler Member	Sat Jul 24 09:28:36 Lmfao...you incredible neanderthal idiot...
Garyd Member	Sat Jul 24 09:30:50 Okay you explain it to me genious.
jergul Member	Sat Jul 24 11:10:44 You did not write the post by Gary [space] d?
Paramount Member	Sat Jul 24 11:12:34 rofl!
so what Member	Sat Jul 24 11:46:10 How ridiculously rude of these gooks. America would probably at the most only imply the possible use of nuclear arms if the Chinese, Russian or Iranian navy would hold excercises with the Cuban or Venezuelan navy in the Caribbean.
Adolf Hitler Member	Sun Jul 25 04:58:15 "Is North Korea the last hardcore communist state? No. Pyongyang struck communism from its constitution in 2009. Informed observers compare North Korea to the militaristic Japan of the 1930s: It worships its leader like a god; prioritizes its military in all policies; feels threatened by the wider world; is virulently nationalistic; and is accused of abusing human rights." http://edi...r.background/index.html?hpt=T1 Wow, sounds just like the resident US right wing extremist mob.
Canadian Member	Sun Jul 25 14:27:25 "Right, because they would send you and you alone." - Army of one, MT, army of one.
Paramount Member	Tue Jul 27 04:21:49 So.... Is NK gonna use their nukes or not? The exercise is almost over soon, isn't it?
jergul Member	Tue Jul 27 04:23:41 The interesting thing will be to see when the next exercise is planned. NK may have mucked up future scheduals somewhat.
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