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ConcernedJew
New Member Mon Feb 01 10:56:36
We want Mussolini censored!

American Gathering Blasts Mussolini iPhone app
Posted on January 31, 2010 in: AMERICAN GATHERING NEWS|Jump To Comments

WASHINGTON — The American Gathering of Jewish Holocaust Survivors and their Descendants on Friday condemned an Apple iPhone application featuring speeches by Benito Mussolini, calling it “an insult to the memory of all victims of Nazism and Fascism.”
“It is a disgrace and a surrender to crass commercialism that the Apple computing company has approved the release of this ‘app’ through their online iTunes store,” Elan Steinberg, vice president of the Gathering, said in a statement.
“We are protesting to them as their tight regulation and control of release of such apps makes them responsible,” she said.
“This is an insult to the memory of all victims of Nazism and Fascism, Jew and non-Jew, and should be condemned for its offense to decency and conscience,” Steinberg said.
According to the creator of the application, Luigi Marino, Italians are downloading “iMussolini,” which features audio, text and video of his speeches, at a rate of around 1,000 a day.
Marino launched the app last week and it is already reportedly the best-selling application on Italy’s online Apple store.
He said he is planning to also develop a version for Apple’s new iPad.
Marino, 25, said he developed “iMussolini” as a historical tool, but it has predictably attracted admirers of the fascist wartime dictator.
Some have posted fascist slogans such as “Dux Mea Lux” (The Duce Is My Light) or “Duce! Duce! Duce!” on the application’s page at the Apple App Store.
Apple has assured Marino that it would not remove the application from sale but is deleting any offending comments, he told AFP.
The California firm did not return an AFP request for comment.

Alex
Member Mon Feb 01 10:59:15
Umm, I think the app developer is a moron, but I damn sure don't want the Jews to start pulling shit here in the US the way they did in Germany- where it is a crime to "deny" the holocaust.

What's next? Making it illegal to "deny" the moon landing?

You can't legislate stupidity. If people want to believe something, they can do so.

This group has no business trying to "ban" anything.

hoER
Member Mon Feb 01 11:05:07

Well, as the outed national socialist you, Im sure not being allowed to deny the holocaust burns...

xyz1
Member Mon Feb 01 11:09:31
Holding a few opinions that a single National Socialist also holds doesn't make one a Nazi.

By that logic, all Europeans would be Nazis because they believe in heavy economic regulation, welfare, animal rights, etc...

hoER
Member Mon Feb 01 11:11:36
but agreeing 100% with every point on the american national socialist's long list on their front page isnt a few opinions, like animal rights...

Paramount
Member Mon Feb 01 11:58:16
"What's next? Making it illegal to "deny" the moon landing?"

It should be illegal to deny the global warming. Everyone who denies global warming should be put in jail like they do in Germany with those who questions the magnitude of the Holocaust.

Alex
Member Mon Feb 01 12:01:19
Well, I'm just glad you fuckwits weren't put in power, or else it would be illegal for me to scratch my balls, or eat a doughnut once in a while.

hoER
Member Mon Feb 01 12:17:38

Your bet you ran away from JB, you gutless, snivelling mental patient, your bet is waiting...

Cloud Strife
Member Mon Feb 01 13:42:20
hoER pulls out the stupidest argument he could.

Durr.. Hitler did it so it must be bad.

Yeah bitch, Hitler ate with silverware and cut his hair. He also wore pants and spent money.

Alex
Member Mon Feb 01 20:14:28
LOL!

Alex
Member Mon Feb 01 20:15:51
I'm going to send a nasty email to the American Gathering of Jewish Holocaust Survivors and Their Descendants.

This bullshit is out of control.

garyd
Member Tue Feb 02 00:10:14
Moussolini? What on earth for? Moussolini risked the alliance with Germany at several point rescuing Jews from the Nazis. People need to get oer the silly idea that Naziism and Fascism are identical concepts joined at the hip. They aren't

Nimatzo
Member Tue Feb 02 00:33:28
>>What on earth for? Moussolini risked the alliance with Germany at several point rescuing Jews from the Nazis.<<

They were actually put in ghettos in Italy as well, but the idea you had would have been nice.

Canadian
Member Tue Feb 02 02:41:36
The Holocaust did not occur in Italy to anywhere near the same extent. These Jews need to learn their own people's history.

"Italy passed anti-Semitic laws in 1938, but these were tolerable and many Jews simply continued doing business "under the table." As early as 1939, many Jews in Germany were aware of Hitlerâ??s anti-Semitism and tried to flee. However, as Elizabeth Bettina explains in It Happened in Italy, "Without a visa, you could not enter another country, and during this time, almost every country in the world turned its back on the Jews". Italy alone allowed Jews to enter without visas. As a result, many Jews relocated to Italian cities and continued their lives and business there.

In 1940, Italy became Germanyâ??s ally. However, according to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, Italy â??"id not willingly cooperate in the Nazi plan to kill the Jews of Europe. Italians generally refused to participate in genocide, or to permit deportations from Italy...to the Nazi extermination camps. Italian military officers and officials usually protected Jews...Between 1941 and 1943, thousands of Jews escaped to Italy and Italian-occupied territory from German-occupied territory".

Mussolini was overthrown in 1943 and Italy joined the Allies. Germany quickly invaded and began deporting Jews to German concentration camps. Almost 10,000 Jews were deported and over 7,000 of these died in Auschwitz and other German camps. However, "[b]ecause Italian authorities obstructed the deportations and many Italian Jews succeeded in hiding or escaped southward to Allied-occupied areas of Italy, more than 40,000 Jews survived the Holocaust in Italy" (USHMM)."

(http://ww2...in_italy_during_the_holocaust)

Canadian
Member Tue Feb 02 02:42:38
FYI, the world's Jews just got trolled.

hoER
Member Tue Feb 02 05:07:34
"Yeah bitch, Hitler ate with silverware and cut his hair. He also wore pants and spent money. "

Dumbass, every point was a major political point, not fucking eating with silverware or brushing their teeth. Guess what; If for ex. you agree with every single point on the GoP's long list of political wishes, chances are pretty good you're a republican - even if you deny it. RIP Rod.

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ConcernedJew New Member	Mon Feb 01 10:56:36 We want Mussolini censored! American Gathering Blasts Mussolini iPhone app Posted on January 31, 2010 in: AMERICAN GATHERING NEWS\|Jump To Comments WASHINGTON — The American Gathering of Jewish Holocaust Survivors and their Descendants on Friday condemned an Apple iPhone application featuring speeches by Benito Mussolini, calling it “an insult to the memory of all victims of Nazism and Fascism.” “It is a disgrace and a surrender to crass commercialism that the Apple computing company has approved the release of this ‘app’ through their online iTunes store,” Elan Steinberg, vice president of the Gathering, said in a statement. “We are protesting to them as their tight regulation and control of release of such apps makes them responsible,” she said. “This is an insult to the memory of all victims of Nazism and Fascism, Jew and non-Jew, and should be condemned for its offense to decency and conscience,” Steinberg said. According to the creator of the application, Luigi Marino, Italians are downloading “iMussolini,” which features audio, text and video of his speeches, at a rate of around 1,000 a day. Marino launched the app last week and it is already reportedly the best-selling application on Italy’s online Apple store. He said he is planning to also develop a version for Apple’s new iPad. Marino, 25, said he developed “iMussolini” as a historical tool, but it has predictably attracted admirers of the fascist wartime dictator. Some have posted fascist slogans such as “Dux Mea Lux” (The Duce Is My Light) or “Duce! Duce! Duce!” on the application’s page at the Apple App Store. Apple has assured Marino that it would not remove the application from sale but is deleting any offending comments, he told AFP. The California firm did not return an AFP request for comment.
Alex Member	Mon Feb 01 10:59:15 Umm, I think the app developer is a moron, but I damn sure don't want the Jews to start pulling shit here in the US the way they did in Germany- where it is a crime to "deny" the holocaust. What's next? Making it illegal to "deny" the moon landing? You can't legislate stupidity. If people want to believe something, they can do so. This group has no business trying to "ban" anything.
hoER Member	Mon Feb 01 11:05:07 Well, as the outed national socialist you, Im sure not being allowed to deny the holocaust burns...
xyz1 Member	Mon Feb 01 11:09:31 Holding a few opinions that a single National Socialist also holds doesn't make one a Nazi. By that logic, all Europeans would be Nazis because they believe in heavy economic regulation, welfare, animal rights, etc...
hoER Member	Mon Feb 01 11:11:36 but agreeing 100% with every point on the american national socialist's long list on their front page isnt a few opinions, like animal rights...
Paramount Member	Mon Feb 01 11:58:16 "What's next? Making it illegal to "deny" the moon landing?" It should be illegal to deny the global warming. Everyone who denies global warming should be put in jail like they do in Germany with those who questions the magnitude of the Holocaust.
Alex Member	Mon Feb 01 12:01:19 Well, I'm just glad you fuckwits weren't put in power, or else it would be illegal for me to scratch my balls, or eat a doughnut once in a while.
hoER Member	Mon Feb 01 12:17:38 Your bet you ran away from JB, you gutless, snivelling mental patient, your bet is waiting...
Cloud Strife Member	Mon Feb 01 13:42:20 hoER pulls out the stupidest argument he could. Durr.. Hitler did it so it must be bad. Yeah bitch, Hitler ate with silverware and cut his hair. He also wore pants and spent money.
Alex Member	Mon Feb 01 20:14:28 LOL!
Alex Member	Mon Feb 01 20:15:51 I'm going to send a nasty email to the American Gathering of Jewish Holocaust Survivors and Their Descendants. This bullshit is out of control.
garyd Member	Tue Feb 02 00:10:14 Moussolini? What on earth for? Moussolini risked the alliance with Germany at several point rescuing Jews from the Nazis. People need to get oer the silly idea that Naziism and Fascism are identical concepts joined at the hip. They aren't
Nimatzo Member	Tue Feb 02 00:33:28 >>What on earth for? Moussolini risked the alliance with Germany at several point rescuing Jews from the Nazis.<< They were actually put in ghettos in Italy as well, but the idea you had would have been nice.
Canadian Member	Tue Feb 02 02:41:36 The Holocaust did not occur in Italy to anywhere near the same extent. These Jews need to learn their own people's history. "Italy passed anti-Semitic laws in 1938, but these were tolerable and many Jews simply continued doing business "under the table." As early as 1939, many Jews in Germany were aware of Hitlerâ??s anti-Semitism and tried to flee. However, as Elizabeth Bettina explains in It Happened in Italy, "Without a visa, you could not enter another country, and during this time, almost every country in the world turned its back on the Jews". Italy alone allowed Jews to enter without visas. As a result, many Jews relocated to Italian cities and continued their lives and business there. In 1940, Italy became Germanyâ??s ally. However, according to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, Italy â??"id not willingly cooperate in the Nazi plan to kill the Jews of Europe. Italians generally refused to participate in genocide, or to permit deportations from Italy...to the Nazi extermination camps. Italian military officers and officials usually protected Jews...Between 1941 and 1943, thousands of Jews escaped to Italy and Italian-occupied territory from German-occupied territory". Mussolini was overthrown in 1943 and Italy joined the Allies. Germany quickly invaded and began deporting Jews to German concentration camps. Almost 10,000 Jews were deported and over 7,000 of these died in Auschwitz and other German camps. However, "[b]ecause Italian authorities obstructed the deportations and many Italian Jews succeeded in hiding or escaped southward to Allied-occupied areas of Italy, more than 40,000 Jews survived the Holocaust in Italy" (USHMM)." (http://ww2...in_italy_during_the_holocaust)
Canadian Member	Tue Feb 02 02:42:38 FYI, the world's Jews just got trolled.
hoER Member	Tue Feb 02 05:07:34 "Yeah bitch, Hitler ate with silverware and cut his hair. He also wore pants and spent money. " Dumbass, every point was a major political point, not fucking eating with silverware or brushing their teeth. Guess what; If for ex. you agree with every single point on the GoP's long list of political wishes, chances are pretty good you're a republican - even if you deny it. RIP Rod.
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