Utopia Talk / Politics / ot- 2012

mexicantornado Member	Sat Nov 14 23:02:11 anyone got a good link to it yet?
kargen Member	Sat Nov 14 23:19:52 http://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/cal.htm
mexicantornado Member	Sat Nov 14 23:26:02 fuck you
Hot Rod Member	Sat Nov 14 23:30:07 Now *THAT'S* funny.
Hot Rod Member	Sat Nov 14 23:31:17 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1190080/
mexicantornado Member	Sat Nov 14 23:36:45 yeah because doing the same joke twice in a row is hilarious.
Average European Member	Sat Nov 14 23:49:01 http://www.rlslog.net/2012-cam-xvid-camelot/
Hot Rod Member	Sat Nov 14 23:51:29 imdb stands for Internet Movie Data Base. It is a DB for just about every movie ever made and contains a wealth of information on each of them. Not to mention, nane an actor and it will give you everything about the actor, even the movies they were in when they first started out where they received no credit. Trust me, it is the best source of information on movies anywhere. Even the Hollywood Pros use it extensively. The site abve gices you three excellent videos about 2012.
Hot Rod Member	Sat Nov 14 23:59:41 And if you still don't believe me. 2012 (2009/I) More at IMDbPro » Photos (see all 76 | slideshow) Videos Director: Roland Emmerich Writers (WGA): Roland Emmerich (written by) & Harald Kloser (written by) Contact: View company contact information for 2012 on IMDbPro. Release Date: 13 November 2009 (USA) more Genre: Action | Drama | Thriller more Tagline: We Were Warned. more Plot: An epic adventure about a global cataclysm that brings an end to the world and tells of the heroic struggle of the survivors. | full synopsis Plot Keywords: Cataclysm | Heavy Rain | Buddhist Monk | Ex Husband Ex Wife Relationship | Shock Jock more NewsDesk: (19 articles) '2012' destroys the competition at Friday's box office (From EW.com - Hollywood Insider. 14 November 2009, 3:24 PM, PST) Friday B.O.: Sony's Emmerich Movie Rolls to $23.3M (From The Wrap. 14 November 2009, 7:28 AM, PST) User Comments: Most Amazing, Suspenseful Disaster film! more (172 total) US Showtimes: AMC Barrywoods 24 9:45am | 10:25 | 11:00 | 11:45 | 1:15pm | 1:50 | 2:30 | 3:20 | 4:45 | 5:30 | 6:15 | 7:00 | 8:15 | 9:00 | 9:40 | 10:35
The Children Member	Sun Nov 15 06:02:36 2012 is going to be a shiat movie. Its just another "day after tomorrow" crap.
Hot Rod Member	Sun Nov 15 06:05:36 TC, better go check the videos on the site I posted before you make your final decision. It has some terrific computer generated scenes in it.
The Children Member	Sun Nov 15 13:23:51 Pu lease. 2012 is going to be crap. Ill wait for the torrent.
Hot Rod Member	Sun Nov 15 13:27:43 Opened to $23.3M first day gross. Somebody liked it. :)
Hot Rod Member	Sun Nov 15 20:28:43 Happy Doomsday! 2012 Blows Up with $65 Mil "- 1 hour ago" The world may live to see 2013, after all. The apocalyptic-minded 2012 started off with a $65 million box-office bang, per estimates, beating projections and the weekend...
Mavl Member	Sun Nov 15 21:04:20 Good visuals. Predictable story. Meladramatic moments that annoy you. American nationalism for the sheep. Nothing special.
Harof Member	Sun Nov 15 21:37:46 "American nationalism for the sheep." And you get surprised when people don't take you seriously.
superdude Member	Sun Nov 15 22:10:13 I don't care how good the graphics are you still need a fucking plot!!
Hot Rod Member	Sun Nov 15 22:15:26 FULL SYNOPSIS: Contains Spoilers. "The film begins in year 2009, when there is a huge explosion on the surface of the sun. We then see Adrian Helmsley (Chiwetel Ejiofor), an American scientist, traveling to a copper mine in India to meet his friend, who discovered that Earth's temperature is increasing rapidly. He returns to Washington D.C. and submits a report to his supervisor, who immediately takes him to the president. In 2010, we see the President of the United States tell other heads of state the situation (the world is ending) and we also see billionaires all over the world buying plane tickets for untold sums of money. In 2011 the original of The Mona Lisa in the Louvre is replaced with a decoy, and is sealed away for unknown reasons. The story jumps ahead to 2012. Jackson Curtis (John Cusack), a divorced father who works as a limousine driver and writer, and his ex-wife, Kate Curtis (Amanda Peet), and children, Noah (Liam James) and Lily (Morgan Lily), who live with Kate's new boyfriend, Gordon (Thomas McCarthy). Jackson takes his children on a camping trip to Yellowstone, where he meets Charlie Frost, who hosts a radio segment that addresses the Mayans' prediction. Charlie mentions a map of where special ships are, but Jackson assumes he is a rambling drunk and leaves him. Kate and Gordon and in a super market buying groceries when the floor begins to crack and the supermarket is split in half. Jackson gets a call that he has to return from camping with the kids. Jackson arrives at the house and drops the kids off, and takes his limo to a job. He goes to the house of Russian billionaire Yuri Karpov. Jackson takes Yuri, his children and his girlfriend to the airport. The children make cruel comments to Jackson, and as they board the plane, they mention they have tickets to board the ships and Jackson doesn't. This leads Jackson to believe Charlie's story, and he rents a plane. Jackson hurries to Kate's house and picks up her, the kids, and Gordon as the house collapses and a massive earthquake begins. They drive through L.A while it is being destroyed and arrive just in time at the airport. When they get to Santa Monica Airport, the pilot that Jackson hires is killed by a falling structure. Kate mentions that Gordon knows how to fly (gordon protest's, he has only had a few lessons) so they tell him to fly the plane out of L.A. From the sky, we see L.A sinking into the Pacific Ocean. Jackson announces they have to get to Yellowstone to get the map from Charlie. They fly there and Jackson goes looking for Charlie. He finds his R.V and takes it out looking for Charlie, and he finds him at the top of a hill waiting for the impact. Charlie tells Jackson where the map is and he rushes back to the R.V as a massive explosion goes off, hurtling rocks in every direction. Jackson gets to the plane and they take off for China. The group lands in Las Vegas and they meet Yuri. Yuri's plane is damaged, but he and Sasha, Yuri's pilot, find a cargo plane that carries automobiles. Las Vegas is destroyed by earthquakes and ravaged by the impeding volcanic ash cloud of Yellowstone. Yuri has 2 children and his girlfriend with him. While in the air, the group learns that the plane does not have enough fuel to reach China: they've passed Honolulu, Hawaii, which has been inundated in lava. As they're about to ditch the plane they discover that they are no longer above the ocean: the Earth's crust has shifted thousands of miles and they are heading towards the Himalayas. During a crash landing on a glacier they manage to escape from the plane safely by using one of the luxury vehicles in cargo as a raft. The group ditches the car and a helicopter lands, they ask for tickets and Yuri shows his three tickets. He goes on the helicopters with his 2 children and leaves his girlfriend and the group behind. The group eventually find their way to the ships with the help of some locals and are smuggled aboard with the help of a Buddhist monk and a construction worker. Gordon dies as they board. Tsunamis begin to engulf the Indian peninsula, and a giant wave eventually reaches the ships, which turn out to be arks constructed to save the heads of state, hand-picked individuals chosen to repopulate the earth and the rich elite, who could afford to buy tickets. A massive flood is heading towards the ship, and due to a wire left by Jackson in the ships gate, the gate isnt able to close, and the engines arent able to start. Jackson manages to get the gates closed just in time, and the ships cruise off. A title appears that says Day 27 Month 01 Year 01. The group is living on the ark, and Jackson and Kate seem to have gotten back together. The captain of the ship learns that Africa was able to miss catastrophe and is safe to venture too. The ship heads for Africa, and a view from space shows all continents have moved together and are in the shape of Africa. Page last updated by jshelleh196, 5 hours ago"
Firestorm Phoenix Member	Sun Nov 15 22:43:33 Wow....that sucks.
Mavl Member	Mon Nov 16 02:43:02 Harof ""American nationalism for the sheep." And you get surprised when people don't take you seriously. " You got offended by the obvious or something?
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Nov 16 03:06:50 In Mavl's world there are no events that happen without the massive, if subtly hidden US involvement. Everything good happens inspite of the US and everything bad happens because of the US. Even some insignificant, dumb Hollywood movie must be watched through the prizm of Great Patriotic anti-US Struggle.
Mavl Member	Mon Nov 16 04:42:08 CR Are you claiming that Hollywood movies are not full of American nationalism?
Harof Member	Mon Nov 16 04:45:02 "You got offended by the obvious or something?" No, you're upset because the Russian president was gay? Or that Russia didn't get its own ark?
Mavl Member	Mon Nov 16 04:46:54 I'm not upset by anything, this is just one of the impressions of this movie which I listed. Also was mentioned last because it was fully expected.
Mavl Member	Mon Nov 16 04:48:01 P.S. I lol'd when i saw the negro prez.
Harof Member	Mon Nov 16 04:48:51 Then don't be surprised if people don't take you seriously when you always rant about American propaganda.
Mavl Member	Mon Nov 16 04:50:29 So pointing out the obvious American nationalism in Hollywood movies, which is common knowledge everywhere else in the world amounts to "ranting" about "american propaganda" now?
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Nov 16 05:58:06 "CR Are you claiming that Hollywood movies are not full of American nationalism? " No not at all, but what I am claiming is that nobody but you thinks that way, when discussing some shitty movie.
Multi New Member	Mon Nov 16 06:08:04 I dunno, when they start their incessant flag waving, I tend to yawn too at the standardized Hollywood nationalism.
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Nov 16 06:16:39 From what I hear, flag-waving is the least of their problems, people who watched it say that the movie is just not that good. But thats not my point. I would feel weird if I start scoring sci-fy films based on nationalism and schauvinism. I hope that I would have enough common sense to realise that I have a serious problem, at that point.
Multi New Member	Mon Nov 16 06:20:43 I still dunno. One of my personal complaints about Independence Day as I recall it, was the overblown, populistic patriotism that was beaten over the viewers head. If you out it that way, I guess you could say its nationalism pulled its rating down for me too.
Hot Rod Member	Mon Nov 16 06:52:42 You guys are criticizing the very nature of Americans. When we are attacked we come together and wrap ourselves in Nationalism. When Pearl Harbor was attacked the recruiting lines were blocks long the following week. Most of you recognized how we came together after 9/11 that in some areas extends to this day. We all go our separate ways until someone comes after us then we become one. It is either the pack instinct or it started with Ben Franklin when he said, â??We must all hang together or most assuredly we will all hang separately.â??
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Nov 16 06:53:03 Shut the fuck up, Rod.
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Nov 16 06:53:31 ^also Franklin's quote
charper Member	Mon Nov 16 06:56:13 No, only the very nature of stuffy stock conservative far right nationalists who refuse to grow up.
charper Member	Mon Nov 16 06:56:59 "It is either the pack instinct or it started with Ben Franklin when he said, â??We must all hang together or most assuredly we will all hang separately" == Militant Collectivism
Hot Rod Member	Mon Nov 16 07:49:26 CR - Shut the fuck up, Rod. CR showing us his finely honed debating skills. :)
CrownRoyal Member	Mon Nov 16 07:51:49 Is that what you think I am doing? Debating? With you?
charper Member	Mon Nov 16 07:58:26 Great quote CR. "Hot Rod, kill yourself" - Alexander Hamilton
xyz1 Member	Mon Nov 16 08:51:23 "But click an ad first!" - Aaron Burr
charper Member	Mon Nov 16 09:03:38 Ahhh, such wisdom that saturated the words of our great founders.
WARNING WARNING Member	Tue Nov 17 12:57:40 WARNING WARNING: DO NOT WATCH 2012 "The apocalyptic film 2012 has dominated the box office, taking in $65 million on opening weekend. But with all those uninformed eyeballs watching the film, NASA has found itself answering so many common questions that their Ask an Astrobiologist blog offers calming, professional reassurance that there is no planet Nibiru, nor will it collide with Earth (although I do recall a massive solar storm forecast). NASA's main site even offers a FAQ answering similar questions. NPR has more on NASA scientist David Morrison and his efforts to calm the ensuing public hysteria, but survivalists are already planning for the big one. Pretty funny, right? Not according to Morrison: 'I've had three from young people saying they were contemplating committing suicide. I've had two from women contemplating killing their children and themselves. I had one last week from a person who said, "I'm so scared, my only friend is my little dog. When should I put it to sleep so it won't suffer?" And I don't know how to answer those questions.'"
The Children Member	Tue Nov 17 12:58:39 ^omg No way to hide about it now, yankees. Look at how dumb you people are!!!
redblooded Member	Thu Nov 19 14:43:42 I'm somewhat surprised that Fox didn't use footage of that movie and edit it into a documentary. Still of that black president and some voice saying:" God's way of saying NO!"
The Children Member	Thu Nov 19 15:51:47 Of course this movie was going to suck! The first moment I saw the first footage of that plane with those cars, I knew instantly the plot and script were terrible and I knew instantly that it was just another fking "day after tomorrow", "independance crap" shiat. All CGI but not a fking story.
The Children Member	Thu Nov 19 15:53:04 Like transformers. I just watched the G1 movie again from 1981 and it made transformers 1 and 2 from bay look like sesametreet in CGI.
Canadian Member	Thu Nov 19 17:22:31 Bye bye Poison.
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