Utopia Talk / Politics / Kosovo Honors Bill Clinton

Hot Rod Member	Sun Nov 01 21:43:54 Photos at site. Kosovo Honors Bill Clinton With Statue By NEBI QENA AP PRISTINA, Kosovo (Nov. 1) - Thousands of ethnic Albanians braved low temperatures and a cold wind in Kosovo's capital Pristina to welcome former President Bill Clinton on Sunday as he attended the unveiling of an 11-foot (3.5-meter) statue of himself on a key boulevard that also bears his name. Clinton is celebrated as a hero by Kosovo's ethnic Albanian majority for launching NATO's bombing campaign against Yugoslavia in 1999 that stopped the brutal Serb forces' crackdown on independence-seeking ethnic Albanians. This is his first visit to Kosovo since it declared independence from Serbia last year. Many waved American, Albanian and Kosovo flags and chanted "USA!" as the former president climbed on top of a podium with his poster in the background reading "Kosovo honors a hero." Some peeked out of balconies and leaned on window sills to get a better view of Clinton from their apartment blocks. To thunderous applause Clinton waved to the crowd as the red cover was pulled off from the statue. The statue is placed on top of a white-tiled base, in the middle of a tiny square, surrounded by communist-era buildings. "I never expected that anywhere, someone would make such a big statue of me," Clinton said of the gold-sprayed statue weighing a ton (900 kilograms). He also addressed Kosovo's 120-seat assembly, encouraging them to forgive and move on from the violence of the past. The statue portrays Clinton with his left arm raised and holding a portfolio bearing his name and the date when NATO started bombing Yugoslavia, on March. 24, 1999. An estimated 10,000 ethnic Albanians were killed during the Kosovo crackdown and about 800,000 were forced out of their homes. They returned home after NATO-led peacekeepers moved in following 78 days of bombing. Leta Krasniqi, an ethnic Albanian, said the statue was the best way to express the ethnic Albanians' gratitude for Clinton's role in making Kosovo a state. "This is a big day," Krasniqi, 25 said. "I live nearby and I'm really excited that I will be able to see the statue of such a big friend of ours every day." Clinton last visited Kosovo in 2003 when he received an honorary university degree. His first visit was in 1999 â?? months after some 6,000 U.S. troops were deployed in the NATO-led peacekeeping mission here. Some 1,000 American soldiers are still based in Kosovo as part of NATO's 14,000-strong peacekeeping force. Police in Kosovo upped security measures ahead of Bill Clinton's arrival by adding deploying more traffic police and special police. NATO officials said the peacekeepers were also on alert, although no additional security measures were taken. http://new...e-unveiled-in-kosovos%2F746684
superdude Member	Sun Nov 01 21:47:20 The only bad thing about the people of Kosovo is there worship of Bill Cliton, but it's nice that they appreciate what America has done for them.
Hrothgar Member	Sun Nov 01 23:13:25 Wonder if Iraq will ever have a GWB statue? Seems crazy - but if things keep improving there into a truly stable state I suppose it could happen. I would laugh even more at that than this - somehow it just seems funny no matter how deserved or not.
Hot Rod Member	Sun Nov 01 23:17:47 Don't we have a few statues of Lafayette around?
Forwyn Member	Mon Nov 02 01:09:37 Nothing wrong with them honoring the man. He did support their right to self-determination.
Mavl Member	Mon Nov 02 01:58:59 "Wonder if Iraq will ever have a GWB statue? Seems crazy - but if things keep improving there into a truly stable state I suppose it could happen." Yes, the statue would portray Bush with his left arm raised and holding a portfolio bearing his name and the number of Iraqi dead.
Hot Rod Member	Mon Nov 02 02:25:48 Yeah, just like Stalin's used to. But Stalin needed a much, much, much bigger portfolio.
TheHornedKing Member	Mon Nov 02 02:26:31 "Don't we have a few statues of Lafayette around?" Yep. And many places named after him too.
Mavl Member	Mon Nov 02 03:17:52 "Yeah, just like Stalin's used to. But Stalin needed a much, much, much bigger portfolio. " That's actually a great comparison. Bush and Stalin.
Hot Rod Member	Mon Nov 02 04:35:41 No, the difference in the loss of life in the wars, under the two leaders, is a greater comparison, and more accurate.
Mavl Member	Mon Nov 02 04:36:46 The shrinking difference you mean.
Hot Rod Member	Mon Nov 02 04:44:43 LOL, are you saying there was less life lost because of the USSR in WWII than was caused by George in Gulf War II?
John Wayne Member	Mon Nov 02 04:49:09 And all those deaths were all the Dems fault. Remember when you posted all the deaths of WWI and WWII just recently and blamed them all on the dems, Bitter Troll?
Hot Rod Member	Mon Nov 02 04:52:05 Well, I will happily recall that statement if you can give me the name of The Republican in The FDR Administration that *ORDERED* the economic blockade of Japan.
John Wayne Member	Mon Nov 02 05:05:45 And you're still blaming all the deaths, (you probably didnt even realize you had included ALL the deaths of those two wars when you blamed them on the US government)??? Wow...or maybe you're actually so stupid that you did...?
Hot Rod Member	Mon Nov 02 05:21:57 No. That is *NOT* what I said. I blamed The US government, led by the democrats, for getting The United States into those wars because of their interference in the affairs of other nations.
Mavl Member	Mon Nov 02 05:26:25 "LOL, are you saying there was less life lost because of the USSR in WWII than was caused by George in Gulf War II? " I'm saying that your prez is a murderous bitch.
Hot Rod Member	Mon Nov 02 05:33:39 But with no where near the ability to kill as your murderous bitch Stalin. In WWII Stalin was responsible for *tens of thousands times* the number of deaths George was responsible for in GWII.
John Wayne Member	Mon Nov 02 05:33:45 "No. That is *NOT* what I said. " Youre a liar. The figures you published were for all the deaths of both wars.
John Wayne Member	Mon Nov 02 05:34:38 And yet you wont blame Bush for the deaths in Iraq...Im not going to read your posts annymore, youre too full of it.
Hot Rod Member	Mon Nov 02 05:36:20 Promises, Promises. Does that include all of your Multis or just this one?
Mavl Member	Mon Nov 02 06:54:29 "But with no where near the ability to kill as your murderous bitch Stalin. In WWII Stalin was responsible for *tens of thousands times* the number of deaths George was responsible for in GWII." He's not mine. Bushie boy on the other hand is a democratically elected murderer of yours.
Hot Rod Member	Mon Nov 02 07:05:17 Of course Stalin is yours. He was the leader of your country. And please do not say you had nothing to do with Stalin being in power, I didn't vote for Bush either.
charper Member	Mon Nov 02 07:09:11 So Obama is your boy then.
Mavl Member	Mon Nov 02 07:10:31 "And please do not say you had nothing to do with Stalin being in power" Actually, I had everything to do with him being in power. I personally put him there before I even existed. That's how powerfull I am. :rolleyes: "Of course Stalin is yours. He was the leader of your country." Stalin is as mine as he is Saakashvili's or Yuschenko's or any other puppet the west may currently have in place in the former USSR. "And please do not say you had nothing to do with Stalin being in power, I didn't vote for Bush either. " oh, right... when it comes to admitting responsibilities, the "free and the brave" suddenly don't answer for their leaders xD
charper Member	Mon Nov 02 07:10:34 Stalin is to be blamed for 900,000,000 deaths? ROFL
charper Member	Mon Nov 02 07:11:51 *and thats the lowest conservative count according to HR's math using only one ten thousand multiplication instead of HR's "tens of thousands"
charper Member	Mon Nov 02 07:13:12 And finally, "I didn't vote for Bush either. " is a baldfaced lie. you even proclaimed publically that you were no longer voting libertarian but voting for Bush. You. Liar.
Mavl Member	Mon Nov 02 07:14:41 "Stalin is to be blamed for 900,000,000 deaths? ROFL " yeah, they put a counter on the deaths you know :)))
Hot Rod Member	Mon Nov 02 07:32:14 So I overstated, sue me. Do you *honestly* think George's number comes anywhere close to Stalin's? "oh, right... when it comes to admitting responsibilities, the "free and the brave" suddenly don't answer for their leaders xD" I am every bit as responsible for George as you are for Stalin.
Mavl Member	Mon Nov 02 07:37:32 Nope. Simple fact. You could've assassinated Bush.
charper Member	Mon Nov 02 07:39:23 "Do you *honestly* think George's number comes anywhere close to Stalin's?" wtf are you talking about "HONESTLY"??? I havent made a single estimation DUMBASS. YOU DID. AND IT WAS A HUGE EXAGGERATION. How the FUCK do you get the GALL to talk about HONEST estimations????? lol you suck so much...
OsamaIsDaWorstPresid Member	Mon Nov 02 07:39:26 u culda asasnatid pootin
charper Member	Mon Nov 02 07:41:16 "I am every bit as responsible for George as you are for Stalin" YOU FUCKING LIAR. you TOLD this board you were VOTING for Bush in his second term. You FUCKING LIAR.
charper Member	Mon Nov 02 07:43:59 So mavl didnt exist during stalin and HR voted for bush and mavl is as much to blame for stalin as HR is for Bush????? Kill yourself HR, youre too stupid for us to be paying for your existence anymore.
Mavl Member	Mon Nov 02 07:48:01 "u culda asasnatid pootin " I like the pure pwnage he delivers.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Mon Nov 02 09:17:00 back on topic: yup, Albanians absolutely love the United States. goes back to ww1.
Hot Rod Member	Mon Nov 02 09:50:53 Assassination is against the law inb this country. charper - How the FUCK do you get the GALL to talk about HONEST estimations????? All I did was ask you a question. You French Canadians should really learn English. charper - YOU FUCKING LIAR. you TOLD this board you were VOTING for Bush in his second term. No. I did not. I told everyone on this board I was voting fo McCain, and I did.
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