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Dukhat Member	Tue Oct 27 22:39:09 Police: As many as 20 present at gang rape outside school dance STORY HIGHLIGHTS * 10 people involved in assault, 10 others watched and offered no help, police say * Richmond, California, police say student was gang raped for over two hours * Former student, 19, and 15-year-old arrested * Victim, 15, remains in the hospital in stable condition Richmond, California (CNN) -- Investigators say as many as 20 people were involved in or stood and watched the gang rape of a 15-year-old girl outside a California high school homecoming dance Saturday night. Police posted a $20,000 reward Tuesday for anyone who comes to them with information that helps arrest and convict those involved in what authorities describe as a 2½-hour assault on the Richmond High School campus in suburban San Francisco. Two teenage suspects have been jailed, but more arrests, as many as 20 total, are expected, according to a police detective. "We will be making arrests continually as we develop probable cause," said Richmond Police Lt. Mark Gagan. "With this number of people implicated in the incident we're going to be making arrests on an ongoing basis." As many as 10 people were involved in the assault in a dimly lighted back alley at the school, while another 10 people watched without calling 911 to report it, police said. A 1999 California law makes it illegal not to report a witnessed crime against a child, but the law applies only to children 14 and under. "We do not have the ability to arrest people who witnessed the crime and did nothing," Gagan said. "The law can be very rigid. We don't have the authority to make an arrest." Charles Ramsey, a member of the Richmond school board, said the school district bears some responsibility for the attack. School administrators and police apparently weren't watching the area as they should have, Ramsey said. The school said it would hold a safety meeting for parents and students Wednesday evening to address the assault. The victim was found unconscious under a bench shortly before midnight Saturday, after police received a call from someone in the area who had overheard people at the assault scene "reminiscing about the incident," Richmond Police Lt. Mark Gagan said. The girl was flown by helicopter to a hospital where she was admitted in critical condition. She was in stable condition Tuesday, police said. Investigators canvassed the community with fliers, which included the reward offer, hoping to identify more suspects Tuesday. "There is one individual in custody who has made some spontaneous statements that have led me to believe that he is culpable for what happened," Richmond police Lt. Johan Simon said. Nineteen-year-old Manuel Ortega, described as a former student at the school, was arrested soon after he fled the scene and will face charges of rape, robbery and kidnapping, police said. A 15-year-old was later arrested and charged with one count of felony sexual assault. A third teenager was being interviewed, Gagan said. "Based on witness statements and suspect statements, and also physical evidence, we know that she was raped by at least four suspects committing multiple sex acts," Gagan said. "As people announced over time that this was going on, more people came to see, and some actually participated," Gagan said. The attack occurred on school grounds as the annual homecoming dance was under way inside the school Saturday night, authorities said. *************************************** Californians and liberals in general are assholes.
Liberal Member	Tue Oct 27 22:43:49 In San Francisco they are refusing to turn illegal alien felons over to ICE because it is "tearing families apart" when they are deported.
roland Member	Tue Oct 27 23:00:51 Hahahaha... Dukhat lost his mind.
Liberal Member	Tue Oct 27 23:05:44 roland approves of gang rape of teenage girls. Probably the only way he can get any pussy.
roland Member	Tue Oct 27 23:13:33 "roland approves of gang rape of teenage girls. " Link?
Liberal Member	Tue Oct 27 23:15:38 roland - Hahahaha...
roland Member	Tue Oct 27 23:19:42 Failed @ quoting out of context. I can do that too. "Liberal Member Tue Oct 27 23:05:44 "approves gang rape of teenage girls."
Liberal Member	Tue Oct 27 23:22:22 No, you are missing the point and it is not out of context. It is the context. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FUNNY ABOUT THE GANG RAPE OF A TEENAGER. Or about anyone else for that matter.
Liberal Member	Tue Oct 27 23:23:15 If you are low enough to think it is funny then that means you approve of it.
EuRasia Member	Tue Oct 27 23:25:55 Hot Rod-- Do not neglect mentioning that these are children you're referring to. Illegally immigrating child-felons. The decisions reached by officials in San Fransisco are irrelevant and unrelated to the OPs article and do not negate from the crimes explained in said article. Just because a certainly more pressing issue presents itself in the news, does not mean lesser injustices are any less unjust. This is your problem. Your brain has only the ability to process simplified, relatively small batches of information in any single moment. In short, you are a fucking idiot.
Liberal Member	Tue Oct 27 23:27:44 And you are?
roland Member	Tue Oct 27 23:28:59 "THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FUNNY ABOUT THE GANG RAPE OF A TEENAGER. " I am laughing at Dukhat, not the gang rape. I even mentioned Dukhat's name in the same sentence. God you are dumb. Now go click an ad and kill yourself.
Liberal Member	Tue Oct 27 23:31:21 I know exactly what you intended. You were having a good laugh at that poor girls expense. You should be ashamed of yourself for being such a lwo person.
Liberal Member	Tue Oct 27 23:32:31 *-low
roland Member	Tue Oct 27 23:33:26 "I know exactly what you intended. " I failed at trolling *FIXED*
EuRasia Member	Tue Oct 27 23:40:22 "Liberal Member Tue Oct 27 23:27:44 And you are? " Case in point. As we can see, the subject is unable to stay on track. Such diversions should not be confused with a developed individuals ability to guide the conversation toward a different direction, as the subject does not possess the mental capacity necessary to formulate such a response. In short, do not blame Hot Rod for being a dumbass as he is too ignorant to know that he is too ignorant.
Dukhat Member	Tue Oct 27 23:51:58 The fact that 20 people can just observe it and do nothing is why I hated Berkeley and my years in California. The vast majority of people there are deeply anti-social amoral people that couldn't give a rat's ass about each other. I go to school in a pretty liberal area now but its nowhere near as bad as it was in California. Californians are a unique breed of asshole and its reflected in their government and deterioating economy.
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Wed Oct 28 02:21:44 hot rod you're an absolute moron.
Sarcasm Member	Wed Oct 28 02:49:52 Moron arch conservatives trying to blame a drunken rape on the democratic party. You guys are so fucking predictably stupid.
Liberal Member	Wed Oct 28 04:57:41 Both situations go to the liberal underlying thought that society has no rights. The rights of the perpetrator takes precedence over the rights of the victim. If you think that is an exaggeration then consider that the liberals now want to give Miranda Rights to enemy combatants captured on a foreign battlefield. Another example of the system out of control is a Florida case where a two year old was molested by a family "friend". The father and a buddy beat the "friend" into a coma which he has recovered from. Both have rap sheets and the friend has three charges of child molesting but no convictions, the father for robbery, etc. If both are convicted the "friend" gets five years the father gets 15 years. You liberals are losing your fucking minds.
roland Member	Wed Oct 28 05:11:11 "Both situations go to the liberal underlying thought that society has no rights. The rights of the perpetrator takes precedence over the rights of the victim. " No, your examples just show being a victim doesn't mean you can do whatever you like. It doesn't mean you can take the law into your own hand.
Nekran Member	Wed Oct 28 05:13:47 The incident truly is fucking sick and wrong. What is perhaps, in a sense, even more sick is that people actually try to abuse disgusting tragedies as these for their nonsensical partisan politics hackery. Gangrape has nothing to do with fucking liberals or fucking republicans, you douchebags. I really don't know how you americans can make literally anything about fucking liberals and fucking republicans. And at the same time you try to act as if you really care about the tragedy of the rape incident... you people are fucking sick and depraved.
Liberal Member	Wed Oct 28 05:15:21 How does that apply to the 15 year old rape victim? As for the second example, it means the father get a stiffer penalty than the one who *caused* the incident in the first place. Pleas don't tell me if someone molests your kid you are going to stand by and do nothing.
Liberal Member	Wed Oct 28 05:18:46 Nekran - Gangrape has nothing to do with fucking liberals or fucking republicans, you douchebags. It is not the rape that is caused by liberals. That is silly. It is the attitude that the victim *probably* deserved it so instead of getting involved and stopping an egregious crime, they stand around and do nothing.
Smart Dude Member	Wed Oct 28 05:21:22 Nekran is right. WTF does a bunch of teenagers at a high school dance have to do with liberals?
roland Member	Wed Oct 28 05:21:39 "How does that apply to the 15 year old rape victim? " You have to explain how she has no right first, as of now, there is already a number of arrests, and a number of people are jailed. "Pleas don't tell me if someone molests your kid you are going to stand by and do nothing. " Just because I'll probably act the same way doesn't mean it is not crime. Faulty logic there.
roland Member	Wed Oct 28 05:23:50 "It is the attitude that the victim *probably* deserved it " And that has what to do with liberals? Jesus, you are twisted.
Liberal Member	Wed Oct 28 05:24:23 SD, I think Dukhat pointed that out with great eloquence. "The fact that 20 people can just observe it and do nothing is why I hated Berkeley and my years in California. The vast majority of people there are deeply anti-social amoral people that couldn't give a rat's ass about each other. I go to school in a pretty liberal area now but its nowhere near as bad as it was in California. Californians are a unique breed of asshole and its reflected in their government and deterioating economy."
roland Member	Wed Oct 28 05:29:25 "SD, I think Dukhat pointed that out with great eloquence. " Lol, so HR's source of information is from one of the biggest asshat on the forum. Right, and when TC said China rulz, America sux, that would be also correct?
Liberal Member	Wed Oct 28 05:30:47 roland, sure it is a crime. But, with mitigating circumstances. Personally I would consider the fathers a crime of passion and kick him loose. As for "It is the attitude that the victim *probably* deserved it" The point is the liberals care less about the rights of the victim than they do the rights of the criminals. The poor criminals never had a chance, they grew up with society against them, they are the true victims and all of that crap. While the teach you there is no such thing as personal responsibility and that you deserve everything handed to you on a platter,
Liberal Member	Wed Oct 28 05:34:35 roland - Lol, so HR's source of information is from one of the biggest asshat on the forum. Right, and when TC said China rulz, America sux, that would be also correct? Don't let your diminutive brain get overloaded by the fact that Dukhat and I are usually on the opposite side of the aisle than you. Of course I will quote him more often than you. But don't lose sight of the fact that on the rare occasions that you are correct about something I have said so.
roland Member	Wed Oct 28 05:37:24 "The point is the liberals care less about the rights of the victim than they do the rights of the criminals. The poor criminals never had a chance, they grew up with society against them, they are the true victims and all of that crap." Lol, you just did it yourself, you bleeding heart liberal. Haha... "roland, sure it is a crime. But, with mitigating circumstances. Personally I would consider the fathers a crime of passion and kick him loose." "While the teach you there is no such thing as personal responsibility and that you deserve everything handed to you on a platter, " Yea, whatever happened to personal responsibility, huh? He broken the law and you want to excuse him?
Nekran Member	Wed Oct 28 05:38:03 You are truly a lost cause, HR. I really don't see how you can make anything and everything into a rediculous partisan issue. Do you really seriously think there's never been an incident like this in a right wing environment? If there is one huge problem haunting the US, it is the absurd obsession with partisanship that pretty much clouds all the real issues the country has. As long as you can blame "the other side", there's no need to actually do anything about anything.
Liberal Member	Wed Oct 28 05:41:41 Nekran - Do you really seriously think there's never been an incident like this in a right wing environment? Name one.
Nekran Member	Wed Oct 28 05:50:53 So you're saying you seriously think that? You are worse off than I thought you were.
NeverWoods Member	Wed Oct 28 05:54:39 Are you seriously suggesting that gang rape does not happen in right winged areas of US?
NeverWoods Member	Wed Oct 28 05:57:39 He might be right, they are more into family value activities witch includes incest and the politicians favorite the glory hole poking.
Liberal Member	Wed Oct 28 06:03:51 Yes, I do. I grew up in the '40's and '50's before the liberals got a lock on the education system. Back then we played dodge ball and when you were hit by the ball you were out, you lost. You did not get an "award of accomplishment." We were taught that we were responsible for our actions and if we screwed up there were consequences. Today, everyone gets an award of merit even if they are the worst of the worst at what they do. That is fine for The Special Olympics, but not for people that have to prepare themselves to function in a real and competitive world. The liberal education system teaches people how to be self-centered rather than selfish. If you don't know the difference, then I have just proved my point.
Nekran Member	Wed Oct 28 06:08:29 I'll agree with you that this giving everyone an award thing is bullshit. There's no link to this heinous rape-case though. Trying to turn something as monstrous as this into a partisan hackfest is simply disgusting to me.
Liberal Member	Wed Oct 28 06:13:15 Nekran, Once more, Dukhat pointed out the link. "The vast majority of people there are deeply anti-social amoral people that couldn't give a rat's ass about each other." I really don't expect you to see the link because of your liberal blinders, but there it is just the same.
Nekran Member	Wed Oct 28 06:15:41 The US' fucking liberals are just as guilty of dragging partisan hackery to any issue as the republicans. You're the one who's being ludicrously blinded by hackery if you think that this disgusting incident has anything to do with politics though.
Liberal Member	Wed Oct 28 06:29:24 It has to do with the liberals taking control of our education system and imposing Progressive thought on our young people. That is where the callousness comes from.
NeverWoods Member	Wed Oct 28 06:43:18 What are you anti-progressive thoughts?
Firestorm Phoenix Member	Wed Oct 28 06:49:16 Oh my God, your hackery has devolved to the level of TC. Feel proud.
NeverWoods Member	Wed Oct 28 07:19:36 "Oh my God, your hackery has devolved to the level of TC. Feel proud." He has always been the biggest hack in this forums. Just give him one liners or so, don't waste to much time on him.
Average American Member	Wed Oct 28 09:12:11 Progressive thought==gang rape. Black music==The devils cackling. Cannabis==Death.
Assassin Member	Wed Oct 28 09:21:27 At least TC is consciously trolling. HR actually thinks like this.
A Cunt Member	Wed Oct 28 12:34:11 Anyone got stats for the rape figures in redneck states vs. developed states to confirm or deny dukhat and HR's projected bigotry?
Informer Member	Wed Oct 28 12:36:07 Souther states do have a higher rate of rapes. Just from top of my memory from intro to CJ. YEARS AGO mind you.
McKobb Member	Wed Oct 28 12:39:42 Richmond is a piece of shit that should be bulldozed over. It's like Oakland but poorer and no NFL team.
Dukhat Member	Wed Oct 28 13:52:13 The point isn't that the crimes are violent, the point is that nobody did anything even though they saw it happen. Fucking liberals sit on their ass and let some ivory league moron manipulate some statistics to make themselves feel better.
Informer Member	Wed Oct 28 13:59:05 I retract my statement. I went back to look at my notes and it should be noted the statistics may have changed but it's the western states that have the higher rates of forcible rapes and northeastern states have less. The first point is true, it is pathetic that nobody did anything to save this girls. As for your second point, you are an imbecile.
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