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Hot Rod Member	Wed Aug 26 06:19:53 They changed the law to a mandatory election in case Kerry was elected President because they did not want Romney to replace him with a republican. Now they want to change the law back to a governor's appointment so they can get another democrat in there before the vote on health care. Totally un-fucking-believable. Replacing Senator Kennedy Published: August 24, 2009 Senator Edward M. Kennedy has asked the Massachusetts Legislature to change state law to let the governor, currently a fellow Democrat, fill vacant Senate seats. Abandoning the current system, in which voters choose, would be undemocratic, even at the request of such a respected lawmaker. With the health care battle heating up in Washington, every senatorâ??s vote is critical. It is not hard to imagine that Mr. Kennedy, who has made national health care a high priority, wants to make sure Democrats will not lose a vote if he is unable to keep serving because of his terminal brain cancer. Under current law, an empty Senate seat can be filled only by special election, which could leave the seat open for more than five months. Massachusetts governors used to fill Senate vacancies. But in 2004, the Democratic majority in the State Legislature changed the law to require a special election. The leaders were concerned that if Senator John Kerry was elected president, Gov. Mitt Romney would appoint a fellow Republican. To change back now would look like an unseemly amount of partisanship in setting the rules for who goes to Congress. Special elections put the power where it should be in a democracy â?? with the people. Too many senators today are selected in elections of one, with the governor casting the only vote. New York just went through this in filling Hillary Clintonâ??s seat, Delaware in filling Joe Bidenâ??s seat, and Illinois in the disastrous process of filling Barack Obamaâ??s seat, which contributed to the impeachment of Gov. Rod Blagojevich. According to FairVote, a voting-rights group, if and when the governors of Florida and Texas fill impending vacancies in those states, almost 27 percent of the population will be represented by at least one unelected senator. Once someone is appointed, he or she has an enormous leg up in the next election. The best solution would be to amend the Constitution to require that all Senate vacancies be filled by election. Senator Russ Feingold, Democrat of Wisconsin, has a proposal, which has bipartisan support, to do that. To his credit, Mr. Kennedy has suggested that the Massachusetts governor should appoint only someone who makes a personal commitment not to be a candidate in the special election. That would reduce the antidemocratic impact of the appointment, but it would not eliminate it. It might be possible for Massachusetts to shorten the campaign, so a new senator could be elected more quickly. But states should be moving away from gubernatorial appointment of senators, not toward it. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/25/opinion/25tue2.html
Nimatzo Member	Wed Aug 26 06:22:18 Already posted, please delete this.
Hot Rod Member	Wed Aug 26 06:44:06 It was? Where?
CrownRoyal Member	Wed Aug 26 06:44:51 open your eyes, old pederast.
Nimatzo Member	Wed Aug 26 06:46:28 My god you even responded to it in Rugians thread you old fart!
Nimatzo Member	Wed Aug 26 06:47:14 http://www...hread=22350&time=1251267819318 Well you didn't respond to it, I always visually mistake you for Hood and vice versa...
Hot Rod Member	Wed Aug 26 07:02:27 I actually responded in Y2A's thread. I did not bother opening Rugians thread earlier, I try to avoid that where possible, and his thread title gave no indication of what his first post was about. (Hmmm! Where have I heard *that* criticism before.) Why should I when there were already two others declaring he was dead and it was the first thing I saw when I turned on the TV this morning.
Hot Rod Member	Wed Aug 26 07:22:06 Nimatzo - Well you didn't respond to it, I always visually mistake you for Hood and vice versa... Perhaps you have dyslexia, you should get that checked out.
Nimatzo Member	Wed Aug 26 07:34:16 Touché you senile old bastard, touché.
Gulliver New Member	Wed Aug 26 09:03:05 Me, personally, I don't believe the Yahoos. Only the Houyhnhnms speak truth.
Rugian Member	Wed Aug 26 10:50:08 "I did not bother opening Rugians thread earlier, I try to avoid that where possible, and his thread title gave no indication of what his first post was about. ... Why should I when there were already two others declaring he was dead and it was the first thing I saw when I turned on the TV this morning." Maybe because the thread title was "Ted Kennedy: Hypocritical piece of shit to the end" and not "Ted Kennedy is dead," you fucking willfully ignorant retard.
Hot Rod Member	Wed Aug 26 11:24:52 Loosely translated that means he died.
Hood Member	Wed Aug 26 11:28:34 I guess if you added tR to my name I could be HR. ewww, it's like he's inside of me.
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Wed Aug 26 11:31:18 poor obama,there goes his vacation. i guess he won't be able to enjoy his books now.
yankeessuck123 Member	Wed Aug 26 12:14:44 This is what happens when you live in a one party state. The Dems can pull nakedly political bullshit like this, and nobody will stop them.
talon121 Member	Wed Aug 26 12:57:12 There are such things as one party states? Oh my my my...
Jesse Malcolm Barack Member	Wed Aug 26 13:04:22 Man the people voted democrat so if a democrat bites the dust then a democrat should replace him you cant just try and force someone from your warmonger repub party in his place of power. Dudes, repubs you lost and Obama won get over it and put a democrat in like the people wanted and stop trying to use it as a weapon to stop health reform that the people wanted.
Hood Member	Wed Aug 26 13:19:45 right. so if the people want to vote in another democrat, they can. if they want to vote in a rep to replace dead kennedy, thats the peoples choice as well.
Jesse Malcolm Barack Member	Wed Aug 26 13:24:25 Dude except the health bill vote is soon and you are trying to keep it empty or put a repub in to sabotage it. People voted a democrat in so that seat should go to a democrat.
Hot Rod Member	Wed Aug 26 15:13:26 The State should follow the law the legislature set. The legislature should *NOT* change the law every time they turn around for their political advantage. So what happens the next time there is a republican governor, they change it back again? You don't see anything wrong there?
yankeessuck123 Member	Wed Aug 26 17:25:59 "So what happens the next time there is a republican governor, they change it back again?" Indeed. That's how Massachusetts works, at least until such a time that the Democrats have some competition. It's what the people have asked for, I guess...
Hood Member	Wed Aug 26 18:54:05 the law states "vote", people should be able to vote. in illinois, I believe they still do appointments for senate seats and such. if people here felt the need to change it, that's fine. but change it or leave it, and stick with what you've decided.
Rugian Member	Wed Aug 26 18:57:53 Please delete this thread; I already made one on the exact same subject, meaning that this thread is nothing more than spam.
Hot Rod Member	Wed Aug 26 18:59:50 This thread now has '7' more posts than your thread. :)
Rugian Member	Wed Aug 26 19:03:40 Most of them talking about how you willfully refuse to open threads that already exist.
Hot Rod Member	Wed Aug 26 19:08:13 While some of them discuss how your thread title did not make the subject clear. Personally, I don't really care, but I did post a better article. :)
Rugian Member	Wed Aug 26 19:10:53 It was plenty clear. Certainly clear enough that it wasn't simply an announcement that he had died, like your idiotic ass apparently though. Also, regarding the "better article", 1) It's not an article you dumbass, it's commentary. 2) CR already posted the EXACT SAME COMMENTARY a full five hours in MY thread before you started this spam thread.
Hot Rod Member	Wed Aug 26 19:15:34 Go ahead and delete it, I already said I don't care. Don't be such a cry baby.
Rugian Member	Wed Aug 26 19:16:37 ROFL. So predictable. It's amazing how easy it is to prove what a hypocrite you are Hot Rod.
Hot Rod Member	Wed Aug 26 19:18:55 LOL, I have no idea what that really means. I just don't want to see you crying all over your bib. :)
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