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Im better then you
rank Wed Feb 25 20:10:31
No debate, no votes from Congress, no accountability.

Most military assets in Middle East since Iraq war.

Also no clear demands or realistic goals other than regime change.

tumbleweed
rank Wed Feb 25 20:31:23
it's His way

(also his golf buddy w/ no diplomatic experience who's now seemingly our only 'diplomat' said "They’re probably a week away from having industrial-grade bombmaking material" on Faux... remember when Trump said he completely obliterated their nuclear program & anything suggesting otherwise was fake news...)

Sam Adams
rank Wed Feb 25 20:34:45
"no votes from Congress"

Not voting to stop it is tacit approval.

"Also no clear demands or realistic goals other than regime change."

Regime change is both clear and realistic.

obaminated
rank Wed Feb 25 20:50:37
Yeah regime change is the clear goal. This only goes bad for trump if iran sinks some of our armada. Not saying that won't happen but it's very unlikely, far more likely is we topple the regime and help prop up a nonislamic pro west government.

Sam Adams
rank Wed Feb 25 21:07:41
The odds of them sinking a ship is quite low. They might not get a single plane.

The highest chance of this going wrong is to hit the ayatolla but not quite pull off the regime change, or to replace him with chaos and terrorism. The Iranian people are significantly more educated and intelligent than the average Muslim though so odds are this will be closer to postwar Germany and Japan rather than say other interventions but it still might not work.

We shall see.

Im better then you
rank Wed Feb 25 21:19:24
"Not voting to stop it is tacit approval."

Its a tacit sign of weakness and frankly cowardness.

"Regime change is both clear and realistic."

If you listen to Trump and war hawks this has something to do with nuclear deal, missile program, human rights, or protesters.
Change to what exactly? The get bombed enough the protesters take over.

Sam Adams
rank Wed Feb 25 21:57:36
Install the crown prince

Forwyn
rank Wed Feb 25 22:22:57
Lul. After Syria and Libya, Democrats are now crying about Congressional approval again.

murder
rank Thu Feb 26 01:13:46

It's only war if they can hit back.

So no.

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Rugian
rank Thu Feb 26 01:24:10
Congress is utterly irrelevant.

When it's controlled by the president's party, it's a pure rubberstamp for the president. When it's controlled by the opposition to the president, it engages in theatrics to show how much they oppose the president without doing anything to actually check him.

This current gaggle of Trump dicksuckers in Congress are especially pathetic in terms of their blind fealty to the president at the expense of their own constitutional powers, but this is a bipartisan problem and one that only gets worse with each successive administration.

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Im better then you rank	Wed Feb 25 20:10:31 No debate, no votes from Congress, no accountability. Most military assets in Middle East since Iraq war. Also no clear demands or realistic goals other than regime change.
tumbleweed rank	Wed Feb 25 20:31:23 it's His way (also his golf buddy w/ no diplomatic experience who's now seemingly our only 'diplomat' said "They’re probably a week away from having industrial-grade bombmaking material" on Faux... remember when Trump said he completely obliterated their nuclear program & anything suggesting otherwise was fake news...)
Sam Adams rank	Wed Feb 25 20:34:45 "no votes from Congress" Not voting to stop it is tacit approval. "Also no clear demands or realistic goals other than regime change." Regime change is both clear and realistic.
obaminated rank	Wed Feb 25 20:50:37 Yeah regime change is the clear goal. This only goes bad for trump if iran sinks some of our armada. Not saying that won't happen but it's very unlikely, far more likely is we topple the regime and help prop up a nonislamic pro west government.
Sam Adams rank	Wed Feb 25 21:07:41 The odds of them sinking a ship is quite low. They might not get a single plane. The highest chance of this going wrong is to hit the ayatolla but not quite pull off the regime change, or to replace him with chaos and terrorism. The Iranian people are significantly more educated and intelligent than the average Muslim though so odds are this will be closer to postwar Germany and Japan rather than say other interventions but it still might not work. We shall see.
Im better then you rank	Wed Feb 25 21:19:24 "Not voting to stop it is tacit approval." Its a tacit sign of weakness and frankly cowardness. "Regime change is both clear and realistic." If you listen to Trump and war hawks this has something to do with nuclear deal, missile program, human rights, or protesters. Change to what exactly? The get bombed enough the protesters take over.
Sam Adams rank	Wed Feb 25 21:57:36 Install the crown prince
Forwyn rank	Wed Feb 25 22:22:57 Lul. After Syria and Libya, Democrats are now crying about Congressional approval again.
murder rank	Thu Feb 26 01:13:46 It's only war if they can hit back. So no. -
Rugian rank	Thu Feb 26 01:24:10 Congress is utterly irrelevant. When it's controlled by the president's party, it's a pure rubberstamp for the president. When it's controlled by the opposition to the president, it engages in theatrics to show how much they oppose the president without doing anything to actually check him. This current gaggle of Trump dicksuckers in Congress are especially pathetic in terms of their blind fealty to the president at the expense of their own constitutional powers, but this is a bipartisan problem and one that only gets worse with each successive administration.
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