Utopia Talk / Politics / Musk the junky

williamthebastard rank	Sat May 31 07:03:25 On the Campaign Trail, Elon Musk Juggled Drugs and Family Drama As Mr. Musk entered President Trump’s orbit, his private life grew increasingly tumultuous and his drug use was more intense than previously known. As Elon Musk became one of Donald J. Trump’s closest allies last year, leading raucous rallies and donating about $275 million to help him win the presidency, he was also using drugs far more intensely than previously known, according to people familiar with his activities. Mr. Musk’s drug consumption went well beyond occasional use. He told people he was taking so much ketamine, a powerful anesthetic, that it was affecting his bladder, a known effect of chronic use. He took Ecstasy and psychedelic mushrooms. And he traveled with a daily medication box that held about 20 pills, including ones with the markings of the stimulant Adderall, according to a photo of the box and people who have seen it. He has exhibited erratic behavior, insulting cabinet members, gesturing like a Nazi and garbling his answers in a staged interview. At the same time, Mr. Musk’s family life has grown increasingly tumultuous as he has negotiated overlapping romantic relationships and private legal battles involving his growing brood of children, according to documents and interviews. Mr. Musk and his lawyer did not respond to requests for comment this week about his drug use and personal life. He has previously said he was prescribed ketamine for depression, taking it about every two weeks. The White House declined to comment on Mr. Musk’s drug use. As a large government contractor, Mr. Musk’s aerospace firm, SpaceX, must maintain a drug-free work force and administers random drug tests to its employees. But Mr. Musk has received advance warning of the tests, according to people close to the process. SpaceX did not respond to questions about those warnings. Mr. Musk, who joined the president’s inner circle after making a vast fortune on cars, satellites and rocket ships, has long been known for grandiose statements and a mercurial personality. Supporters see him as an eccentric genius whose slash-and-burn management style is key to his success. But last year, as he jumped into the political arena, some people who knew him worried about his frequent drug use, mood swings and fixation on having more children. This account of his behavior is based on private messages obtained by The Times as well as interviews with more than a dozen people who have known or worked with him. This year, some of his longtime friends have renounced him, pointing to some of his public conduct. “Elon has pushed the boundaries of his bad behavior more and more,” said Philip Low, a neuroscientist and onetime friend of Mr. Musk’s who criticized him for his Nazi-like gesture at a rally. And some women are challenging Mr. Musk for control of their children. A Ketamine Habit Mr. Musk has described some of his mental health issues in interviews and on social media, saying in one post that he has felt “great highs, terrible lows and unrelenting stress.” He has denounced traditional therapy and antidepressants. He plays video games for hours on end. He struggles with binge eating, according to people familiar with his habits, and takes weight-loss medication. And he posts day and night on his social media platform, X. Mr. Musk has a history of recreational drug use, The Wall Street Journal reported last year. Some board members at Tesla, his electric vehicle company, have worried about his use of drugs, including Ambien, a sleep medication. Mr. Musk had been using ketamine often, sometimes daily, and mixing it with other drugs, according to people familiar with his consumption. The line between medical use and recreation was blurry, troubling some people close to him. He also took Ecstasy and psychedelic mushrooms at private gatherings across the United States and in at least one other country, according to those who attended the events. The Food and Drug Administration has warned about its risks, which came into sharp relief after the death of the actor Matthew Perry. The drug has psychedelic properties and can cause dissociation from reality. Chronic use can lead to addiction and problems with bladder pain and control. By the spring of last year, Mr. Musk was ramping up criticism of President Joseph R. Biden Jr., particularly his policies on illegal immigration and diversity initiatives. Mr. Musk was also facing federal investigations into his businesses. Regulators were looking into crashes of Tesla’s self-driving cars and allegations of racism at its factories, among other complaints. Around that time, Mr. Musk told people that his ketamine use was causing bladder issues, according to people familiar with the conversations. ‘No Sympathy for This Behavior’ Some of Mr. Musk’s onetime friends have aired concerns about what they considered toxic public behavior. In a January newsletter explaining why their friendship had ended, Sam Harris, a public intellectual, wrote that Mr. Musk had used his social media platform to defame people and promote lies. “There is something seriously wrong with his moral compass, if not his perception of reality,” Dr. Harris wrote. Later that month, at a Trump inauguration event, Mr. Musk thumped his chest and thrust his hand diagonally upward, resembling a fascist salute. “My heart goes out to you,” he told the crowd. “It is thanks to you that the future of civilization is assured.” Mr. Musk dismissed the resulting public outcry, saying he had made a “positive gesture.” Dr. Low, who is chief executive of NeuroVigil, a neurotechnology company, was outraged by the performance. He wrote Mr. Musk a sharp email, shared with The Times, cursing him “for giving the Nazi salute.” Dr. Low posted his concerns on social media. “I have no sympathy for this behavior,” he wrote on Facebook, referring to the gesture as well as other behaviors. “At some point, after having repeatedly confronted it in private, I believe the ethical thing to do is to speak out, forcefully and unapologetically.” http://www...musk-drugs-children-trump.html
williamthebastard rank	Sat May 31 08:08:06 Musk's reply before refusing any more questions from that journalist: "Oh, you mean the New York Times that had to return their Pulitzer prize for lying about Russiagate? That New York Times?" Complete fantasy from a drugged up mind. The NYT has never been anywhere close to having to return a Pulitzer prize for lying about Russiagate. Its not remotely related to anything that ever occurred in the real world. Just a junky who has so much money that for him its become normal to live in a world of lies that nobody in his sychophantic orbit ever dares to refute.
williamthebastard rank	Sat May 31 08:14:13 Its a built-in problem for people with too much money and power. Unless theyre smarter and more honest than the Musks of the world, they'll become increasingly surrounded by sychophants who'll feed them and confirm increasingly bad information intended not to inform but to ingratiate them. Its easy to end up living in a bubble where they have no clue about whats happening in the real world.
tumbleweed rank	Sat May 31 08:14:30 "Complete fantasy from a drugged up mind" sort of... it's one of the completely false things Trump 'tweeted' recently, though drugs may explain how a theoretically smart person might actually believe anything Trump says
williamthebastard rank	Sat May 31 08:18:53 The crash in Tesla sales probably blew his mind. He only ever meets people who tell him he's a fantastic genius and saviour of humanity all day long and that the only people who dont like him are a laughably tiny group of communist anarchists somewhere in Bolivia
williamthebastard rank	Sat May 31 08:29:40 Yeah, Trump was nodding away in agreement when he spouted that untethered lie, both of them locked away in their Caligula bubbles of myths and fantasies
Nimatzo rank	Sat May 31 10:05:50 1. Smokes weed. 2. Childless, unmarried. Single. 3. Spends times having psychotic meltdows on the internet. 4. Has no rocket company.
williamthebastard rank	Sat May 31 10:22:35 See, if someone I respected told complete lies like the aforementioned, I’d immediately stop respecting them or seeing them as at all a reliable or honest source. I just dont understand people that dont care about that and continue to trust people they know tell ridiculous lies. Its the difference between the mind that leans toward objective science and the anti-scientific mind that is more influenced by its emotions and desires, I suppose.
williamthebastard rank	Sat May 31 10:33:25 The mind that is interested in whats going on, me, and the mind that is only interested in bias confirmation to not disturb its internal, fixed prejudices, Incel
Nimatzo rank	Sat May 31 10:36:13 Ahahahah :,)
williamthebastard rank	Sat May 31 10:38:06 Minds that have no interest in, or even a dislike of exploring the real world around them will always be a mystery to me
Nimatzo rank	Sat May 31 10:47:12 You even fail at the mere act of ignoring, you HAVE to put on a theater to make sure. That is how nuch you care and how badly scorched you get. You lack discipline.
williamthebastard rank	Sat May 31 10:51:57 A friend of mine who used to be one of the heads at 3 and some other tech companies and who has made a load of money over the years, retiring at 50, now has a company trying to make magic mushrooms legal in Sweden. He’s fallen completely into the fads of the tech world inhabited by the Musks. Its very weird since he’s always been such a straight-laced guy. But microdosing mushrooms and other drugs are all the trend among the Silicon Valley tech bros that he lives in. Of course, its well known that the intellectuals of the tech bro world, as he sees himself, are as profound as my fridge.
williamthebastard rank	Sat May 31 10:54:26 Now his mission is to sell leadership courses to tech bros based on using magic mushrooms lol...His wife left him of course, and now lives a pretty luxurious life living in a fantasy tech bro world http://eudelics.com/
williamthebastard rank	Sat May 31 10:56:23 To his credit, he did finally give up on Musk a few months ago and posted that he was selling his Tesla
Nimatzo rank	Sat May 31 11:58:01 You are not even as profound as a fridge. I think that is the missing link for you to level up you understanding and transcending the being of a fridge. Here it is: no matter what metric you assert, be it to measure moral worth, philosophical depth, ethics or cognitive horse power, you have either already violated it, grossly, or you will do it almost instantaneously after asserting it as a measure. Often this happens within a conversation spanning hours. What the kids called self-ownage. You are the king of self-ownage.
williamthebastard rank	Sat May 31 15:11:10 I’m still confounded by how people like Alpha ”maxr wos a satinister” Boi, dont care at all when someone they think of as one of the most advanced people on Earth spreads utter lies and disinformation like ”The New York Times had to to return a Pulitzer prize for lying about Russiagate” If someone I respected even vaguely, let alone saw as a saviour of humanity, said that, I’d go ”Wtf did he just say??? I’m never taking a word seriously from this idiot again.” What is going on at a psychological level when their brain doesnt care about such untethered lies and disinformation at all?
williamthebastard rank	Sat May 31 15:14:59 As a phenomenologist, I try to put myself in other peoples heads to get an inkling of why things happen, but this one will always be a mystery to me.
williamthebastard rank	Sat May 31 15:19:11 I think, for it to make any sense, you have to dismiss any notions of the person following basic norms, like a willingness to be an honest or principled person, and that he has willingly abandoned any rules of civilized behaviour when it comes to his side, that its ok for his side to do, lie or say anything imaginable as long as its about "pwning the libs."
williamthebastard rank	Sat May 31 16:01:05 This choice naturally destroys any possibility of resolving communication with them, ”not academically serious”, as CHatGPT described this particular specimen, and when that ends, they lead the world to physical violence as the only remaining resolution to disagreements. But the interesting question is, why doesnt the normal segment of the species think its ok to tell any lies whatsoever to pwn the neofascists? Probably, one has to conclude that the current conflict between the far right and normal people is a conflict between the inferior, primitive segment of society, the neofascists, vs. the superior, more developed and civilized segment of society. Immorality and dishonesty (trump, the most shockingly dishonest Potus in all US history) vs common decency.
Rugian rank	Sat May 31 16:50:28 Just for the record, it's spelled "junkie."
williamthebastard rank	Sat May 31 16:55:59 junkie in British English or junky (ˈdʒʌŋkɪ IPA Pronunciation Guide) noun Word forms: plural junkies derogatory, informal a drug addict, esp one who injects heroin into himself or herself Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more junky /ˈdʒʌŋki/ INFORMAL adjectiveNORTH AMERICAN noun variant spelling of junkie. junkie in American English (ˈdʒʌŋki) Also: junky Junky - William S. Burroughs (9780141189826) Adlibris A shocking exposé of the desperate subculture surrounding heroin addiction
Pillz rank	Sat May 31 17:00:43 Only junkies spell it junky
Average Ameriacn rank	Sat May 31 17:24:26 Drugs are bad for us. But Elon is not like us, he is a genius. Maybe his brain can use all those drugs for good? We should not judge him!
TheChildren rank	Sat May 31 21:34:40 aaah yes dunt do druks kids makay? why we all surprised, anotha yankoid addict they is nation of addicts whether it is washin machine powder or da blues stuff such is da reality, livin in da reality of pure hardness no compassion no help no aid just pure screwery so even da ultra rich ones try 2 escape that shit with da white and blue stuff
williamthebastard rank	Sun Jun 01 10:12:07 He's showing off an array of weird tics in his most recent oval office interview
williamthebastard rank	Sun Jun 01 10:12:43 he probably takes drugs because thats the only time he experiences any emotions
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