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Rugian
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Wed Jul 05 06:24:30 2017
TL;DR: CNN hunted down the guy who created the "Trump Wrestling CNN" gif and threatened to dox him unless he issued an apology and promised to stop participating in the Great Meme Wars:

http://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/882422267166195713

/pol/ is ready to go to war over this and Trump Jr. has already retweeted the story. Julian Assange is going so far as to claim that CNN committed a crime here. Hopefully CNN gets fucked over this.
State Department
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Wed Jul 05 06:43:26 2017
CNN is not publishing "HanA**holeSolo's" name because he is a private citizen who has issued an extensive statement of apology, showed his remorse by saying he has taken down all his offending posts, and because he said he is not going to repeat this ugly behavior on social media again. In addition, he said his statement could serve as an example to others not to do the same.

http://www...it-user-trump-tweet/index.html

They are the true assholes here.
smart dude
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Wed Jul 05 06:51:38 2017
CNN is bragging about it on their front page. Other MSM is focusing on the racist history of the guy's posts.
Chen
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Wed Jul 05 11:36:26 2017
Really petty of them that they couldn't do shit to trump so they went after some random tool on the internet.
www.yeswecansong.com
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Wed Jul 05 11:48:30 2017
The idiot learnt the hard way that there is no anonymity in the internet.

http://edi...it-user-trump-tweet/index.html

Soon after, "HanA**holeSolo's" other posts on Reddit, some of which included racist and anti-Semitic imagery, quickly circulated on social media.
Chen
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Wed Jul 05 11:49:38 2017
What gets me is that in their article they threaten to publish the name should the contrition change or if they feel like it. I haven't thought they were wrong in any of their reporting until now.

What's worse is that the guy they doing this to has no legal recourse without publicly revealing his identity and ruining his life over what could be a slim chance of winning.
Seeker
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Wed Jul 05 12:56:08 2017
Fake news.
obaminated
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Wed Jul 05 19:30:42 2017
This can't be real
obaminated
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Wed Jul 05 19:33:31 2017
Wow. They really are bragging about finding the guy on Reddit for making a meme. A meme he probably bragged about making on the internet.
Dukhat
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Wed Jul 05 19:55:58 2017
The real lesson for Retard Rugian is be careful of what you say and troll because Donald Trump might actually retweet it and ruin your real life.

Sam Adams
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Wed Jul 05 19:57:43 2017
Cuckhat is basically cnn and trump level of intelligence.
obaminated
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Wed Jul 05 19:58:05 2017
When dukhat lost his wife to hanassholesolo he swore vengeance. Today he has that vengeance.
murder
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Wed Jul 05 20:03:52 2017

"What's worse is that the guy they doing this to has no legal recourse without publicly revealing his identity and ruining his life over what could be a slim chance of winning."

You mean without revealing himself as a vile piece of shit? That's horrible!

hood
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Wed Jul 05 20:12:33 2017
Idk why you'd be victim blaming here. CNN is a shitstain if they're threatening to dox someone over a fucking meme.
murder
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Wed Jul 05 20:16:10 2017

You don't have a right to be a dickhead and remain anonymous. But you're right, CNN should have just up and done it, instead of threatening him with it.

The creator of the content is part of the story, and they are in the story telling business.

obaminated
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Wed Jul 05 20:17:20 2017
Murder is less partisan and more a creature of contradiction. When we go to war with north Korea he will be the one moron defending Kim. He never grew out of his teenage angst.
hood
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Wed Jul 05 20:36:02 2017
"You don't have a right to be a dickhead and remain anonymous"

Certainly you do. Are you ill?
Dukhat
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Wed Jul 05 20:40:49 2017
Obaminated proves once again why he is the stupidest poster on this board.
Forwyn
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Wed Jul 05 20:42:02 2017
murder is now on the side of SJWs justifying doxxing. lol
Pillz
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Wed Jul 05 21:58:36 2017
Lol @ hood advocating for a right to anonymity while he threatens to report people for hate speech.

What ails leftists?
murder
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Wed Jul 05 22:02:48 2017

"murder is now on the side of SJWs justifying doxxing."

"doxxing" has nothing to do with social justice. It has to do with accountability. Something that was a bedrock of conservative ideology ... until Trump took over the GOP.

murder
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Wed Jul 05 22:03:52 2017

"Certainly you do. Are you ill?"

I've read the constitution a time or two. I'm pretty sure you don't.
murder
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Wed Jul 05 22:07:31 2017

"Murder is less partisan and more a creature of contradiction. When we go to war with north Korea he will be the one moron defending Kim. He never grew out of his teenage angst."

I do have contrarian impulses, but no chance that I'd defend Kim jung-Dung for anything.

And there's no need to go to war. We just need to take out a few hundred targets.
Hot Rod
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Wed Jul 05 22:08:11 2017

Pillz - What ails leftists?


What doesn't ail them?

hood
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Wed Jul 05 22:25:02 2017
"Lol @ hood advocating for a right to anonymity while he threatens to report people for hate speech."

Did I hurt your feelings with my joke last week? Nut up, buttercup.
Rugian
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Wed Jul 05 22:43:37 2017
""doxxing" has nothing to do with social justice. It has to do with accountability. Something that was a bedrock of conservative ideology ... until Trump took over the GOP."

What the fuck does "accountability" have to do with threatening to dox a guy who created a gif? The "accountable" person in this story, if anyone, was the president who tweeted it and made it a "newsworthy" story. We're not talking about unmasking Trump's Chief of Social Media, it's a random doofus on the internet.
Forwyn
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Wed Jul 05 22:44:40 2017
"It has to do with accountability."

Yes, because multi-billion dollar corporations should be "holding accountable" private citizens for making jokes about them, based on some unrelated jokes about nuking Mecca.
Rugian
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Wed Jul 05 22:47:19 2017
I hope Bill Clinton tweets one of murder's numerous posts advocating genocide of Third World mudhutters and CNN immediately threatens to ruin his fucking life unless he releases an apology and delete his UP account. It has to do with accountability, after all.
murder
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Wed Jul 05 22:59:43 2017

"Yes, because multi-billion dollar corporations should be "holding accountable" private citizens for making jokes about them, based on some unrelated jokes about nuking Mecca."

Trolling is newsworthy. As is racism and such. The point of doing what he was doing was to get attention.

Congrats! :o)
obaminated
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Wed Jul 05 23:04:01 2017
Rugian makes a good point. In a way, we are all hanassholesolo.
murder
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Wed Jul 05 23:05:21 2017

"I hope Bill Clinton tweets one of murder's numerous posts advocating genocide of Third World mudhutters and CNN immediately threatens to ruin his fucking life unless he releases an apology and delete his UP account. It has to do with accountability, after all."

I've got news for you. I say the exact same thing in the real world. The human race sucks. Philosophy isn't going to fix it. The only way to do that is to start hacking off the parts that suck worst until what's left sucks less. It wouldn't have to be anything radical. We could just worst 1% of humanity on an annual basis. In about half a century, we'd start seeing some real improvement. :o)

murder
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Wed Jul 05 23:06:45 2017

We could just KILL* the worst 1% of humanity on an annual basis.

obaminated
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Wed Jul 05 23:13:49 2017
Bullshit murder. You don't want you mom to hear about how you want to cull off niggers and spics.
murder
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Wed Jul 05 23:18:47 2017

I don't want to cull niggers and spics. I'd much rather cull Muslims and work my way from there.

And everyone I know has heard it.

murder
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Wed Jul 05 23:20:13 2017

The funny thing is that it's not a radical idea. It makes perfect sense. Everyone may not agree on who falls in that 1%, but there's no arguing that we'd be better off without the worst of the worst.

obaminated
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Wed Jul 05 23:21:52 2017
Muslims, as a whole, are not the worst of the worst. And you'd definitely cave. Maybe your mom has heard it but what about her friends and neighbors? You'd bring her shame
obaminated
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Wed Jul 05 23:22:40 2017
Or how quickly your job would fire you when CNN ran wall to wall coverage about how you want to kill all Muslims.
Chen
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Wed Jul 05 23:23:07 2017
Your employer might have other thoughts. You'd also be subject to harassment on your phone including death threats to you and your family.

What CNN did is completely disgraceful.
murder
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Wed Jul 05 23:37:00 2017

"Muslims, as a whole, are not the worst of the worst. And you'd definitely cave. Maybe your mom has heard it but what about her friends and neighbors? You'd bring her shame."

Dude, my mom died years ago ... in her 80s. Every one of her friends is worm food.


"Or how quickly your job would fire you when CNN ran wall to wall coverage about how you want to kill all Muslims."

I'd be more worried about weirdos from the internet showing up at my door. :o)

murder
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Wed Jul 05 23:41:25 2017

"Your employer might have other thoughts. You'd also be subject to harassment on your phone including death threats to you and your family."

lol! You have no idea. :o)

obaminated
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Wed Jul 05 23:42:56 2017
Whatever the case, CNN has blackmailed a private citizen. I hope they get sued and have to pay out.
murder
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Thu Jul 06 00:04:32 2017

I agree that the blackmail (assuming there was any) crossed the line. But I don't know that to be the case. For all I know the idiot offered up the terms himself to keep from having to face the music for his idiocy.

obaminated
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Thu Jul 06 00:08:03 2017
Holding over the threat of releasing his information unless he doesn't do what he wants them to do, is clearly blackmail.
Rugian
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Thu Jul 06 00:08:15 2017
What music? HE MADE A GIF. Not even an offensive gif, just a funny one. Apparently in murder's world, this warrants a multinational media corporation to fucking end your life socially and professionally. Insanity.
Rugian
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Thu Jul 06 00:13:12 2017
And let's be clear. CNN didn't do this to silence someone who occasionally posts racist things on the internet. There's literally millions of people who do that every day. They did this because they had a complete meltdown over the gif and wanted to destroy someone for having the audacity to lightly make fun of them. Since Trump gives no fucks over what CNN thinks, they went after a random internet user instead. Even without the blackmail angle (which remains the worst aspect about this entire tale), this is all-around scumbag behavior by CNN.
hood
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Thu Jul 06 00:35:56 2017
It's pretty telling that only murder and dukhat are defending this.
obaminated
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Thu Jul 06 01:09:34 2017
Or maybe it is coercion. Since blackmail tends to mean you are gaining something from threatening a person.
murder
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Thu Jul 06 01:18:49 2017

"What music? HE MADE A GIF. Not even an offensive gif, just a funny one."

I'm pretty sure that he's not worried about the CNN GIF.

hood
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Thu Jul 06 02:12:08 2017
The CNN GIF is the only reason he's in this predicament at all. Because CNN is fucking deplorable here.
murder
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Thu Jul 06 03:23:02 2017

No. If all he had done was make the CNN GIF and others like it, he wouldn't have a care in the world. In fact he would probably be eager to become internet famous.

His predicament is due to his other artwork.

Dukhat
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Thu Jul 06 04:50:20 2017
Not supporting what CNN did. You guys lack basic comprehension skills yet again. Just saying the obvious thing that you are not annonymous on the internet and what you say and do can and will be used against you. I had some punk kid who was co-valedictorian under me get his offers to the Ivy League rescinded because he wrote some racist tirade in his AIM profile after some Mexicans robbed him. This was like 15 years ago.

You are a dumbass if you think you are safe from anyone.

What's even more retarded is all the alt-right conservative posters here knee-jerk oppose things like Net Neutrality (which would help stop this) because you only believe what the Koch Brothers pay you to believe.

You stupid fucking dumb shitstains are so retarded, it defies all logic.
obaminated
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Thu Jul 06 05:28:41 2017
Yeah, well, your wife likes sucking our dicks.
John Adams
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Thu Jul 06 15:30:34 2017
Trolls, people, internet folks from all walks of life make fun, paraodies, and satirically poke fun at news agencies and other MSM. To waste resources on a knucklehead to exploit speaks volume. CNN as a whole is a good news agency. And so is Fox news. Hence why I read articles and watch from time to time from there. And formulate my opinions and find out which is factual and pick out what is a story and/or non-story.

This one is definitely in the non-story category.

I also hold the opinion that the president should not have posted this, among many other things he has tweeted because he is being more divisive than anything.
hood
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Thu Jul 06 15:30:52 2017
If valid, this changes the narrative quite a bit.

http://mobile.twitter.com/perlberg/status/882629134668713985

Still pretty fucking petty, but not as bad as is being discussed.
John Adams
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Thu Jul 06 15:47:38 2017
I agree. As I've said wasteful.
Rugian
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Thu Jul 06 15:49:25 2017
Unfortunately for CNN, their own author contradicted them on that:

http://cdn...0/1*i77loAsZvWO56idwETe07Q.png

Also, why would someone issue a formal apology and delete their account if they didn't feel threatened?
hood
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Thu Jul 06 16:10:21 2017
There's no contradiction...?

The author says that they contacted Han, and before they talked to him or published a story he had apologized and deleted shit. Are people so retarded as to not comprehend the difference between reaching out (sending an email, text, IM, whatever) and actually talking (wherein there's an exchange of words between both parties)?

From this is appears pretty simple:
CNN discovered the meme creator. They attempted to contact him in some sort of real communication method (personal email or voicemail on his cell??) and upon receiving this the guy flipped shit at being found irl and deleted all his stuff. CNN then had a formal discussion after guy already flipped shit. CNN posted their article with the extremely disconcerting part about reserving the right to out the guy.


Is CNN a shitbag for finding this guy offline? Yes. Did they threaten to out him? It would seem no. And there's been no inconsistency in that messaging that I've seen.
CrownRoyal
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Thu Jul 06 16:47:11 2017
"Is CNN a shitbag for finding this guy offline? Yes."

I would actually call it their job.
Dukhat
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Thu Jul 06 16:55:32 2017
Rugian's such a snowflake. He's a social justice warrior but only when the person being e-bullied is another fat-ass 40-year-old white male like him.

SAD.
hood
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Thu Jul 06 17:24:00 2017
Cr: if finding him offline is newsworthy, sure. It isn't. He made a gif. He's a nobody.
CrownRoyal
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Thu Jul 06 17:36:26 2017
Newsworthiness (what to actually publish) is something for them do decide and sometimes subjective. But investigation? I don't think it is a "shitbag"move, I think it is their job
hood
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Thu Jul 06 17:51:42 2017
You are as free to your opinion as your opinion is wrong.
TJ
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Thu Jul 06 18:01:01 2017
CNN is back peddling. Anyone that believes a dedicated troll didn't get some arm twisting is gullible. He didn't just jump out of his bigoted closet and say here I am! Age 15 or 95 means zilch. It demonstrates that the editor knew the inside of the story. Shame on CNN. They've been scorched by their own fire.

Their deep hatred for Trump is at a level of a media psychosis.

The world media is desensitizing the populations more rapidly than I've experienced in my lifetime and the steam is begging for an outlet.
murder
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Thu Jul 06 18:20:46 2017

^ proof that people are going to believe whatever the fuck they want, and couldn't care less about facts.

murder
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Thu Jul 06 18:24:02 2017

"Age 15 or 95 means zilch."

WTF is wrong with you that you believe that? If the source that got you riled up lied about a fact, why the fuck would you lend credibility to the rest of their story?

I'll answer that for you. It's because the truth doesn't matter to you anymore than the person's age does.

You are suck in evil media mode. You are stuck on stupid.

obaminated
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Thu Jul 06 18:25:20 2017
They may or may not have spoken to the gif creator. They may have messaged him with loaded questions prior to a formal conversation. That seems likely to me considering he went scorch earth on his account and then issued an apology. You generally don't apologize unless you feel pressure to do so. Also the fact that they had the threat that they'd release his name if he ever made a gif again
obaminated
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Thu Jul 06 18:26:09 2017
Implies some level of coercion. CNN has lied in the past. We have seen them do this. So they being shady with the truth isn't something to be shocked at.
murder
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Thu Jul 06 18:34:25 2017

"They may or may not have spoken to the gif creator. They may have messaged him with loaded questions prior to a formal conversation. That seems likely to me considering he went scorch earth on his account and then issued an apology."

It's not hard to imagine someone picturing their life flashing before their eyes when they realize they've been identified ... and begging for mercy without any demands being made.

Whatever the case, one thing everyone should agree on is that the facts ... the actual verifiable facts, and not just random shit some said or posted on the internet ... matter.

TJ
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Thu Jul 06 18:34:52 2017
murder:
Thanks for the help.
hood
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Thu Jul 06 18:40:49 2017
"They may have messaged him with loaded questions prior to a formal conversation."

Sure, that's possible. But loaded questions don't equate to "we are going to unmask you." Finding the dude irl is a shitty move, but threatening to expose him is a different level. If they just spooked the fuck out of him and didn't actually make threats, then they're just shitty, not next level shitty.
murder
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Thu Jul 06 18:57:04 2017

"Thanks for the help."

You're welcome. You seemed like you could use it. :o)

TJ
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Thu Jul 06 19:03:40 2017
I always welcome an assist. I was positive I would be receiving at least one.
obaminated
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Thu Jul 06 19:23:52 2017
They are next level shitty because in their own original article they state they are reserving the right to release his personal information if he goes back to gif making they don't approve of. This runs counter to their latest claim that they withheld his information to protect him. Basically people at CNN went to far and they are now PR people are trying to spin it as best they can.
obaminated
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Thu Jul 06 19:25:27 2017
But really we won't know the full story until hanassholesolo identifies himself and shares whatever records he has of the conversation, which he probably won't do. Thus we only get one side of the issue, from CNN, and solely from their account it's clear they went above and beyond in their shitheadness, it can only get worse if hanassholesolo were to share his side.
hood
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Thu Jul 06 20:58:04 2017
"they state they are reserving the right to release his personal information"

Are you at all familiar with legal departments?

Not that you'll actually consider anything but cnn being the devil incarnate. Just try for a moment. What would legal do?


Also, there are rumors somewhat related to this:
Apparently Trump wants cnns ceo fired before the At&t - Time Warner merger is approved. You know, that merger he said he wouldn't let happen while he was campaigning.
obaminated
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Thu Jul 06 21:00:29 2017
They had no legal obligation to include that add on at the end of the article. And please, I am not treating CNN as the devil, it's quite clear someone got too excited with what they found (Trump supporting racist) and overplayed his or her hand and the PR team at CNN had to fix it to the best of their ability.
hood
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Thu Jul 06 21:15:23 2017
When the fuck has legal obligation been the issue? Legal always, ALWAYS wants to include options to change their mind. The article said they weren't going to do it.

If for whatever reason, someone at CNN wanted to publish his name and they had said they won't with any caveat, Han might end up trying to sue CNN. Legal doesn't give shits about obligations here, they give shits about protecting their ass.
Forwyn
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Fri Jul 07 08:13:57 2017
We don't get the full story, because Han caved to the very real threat of asshole leftists swamping him with death threats and spamming his employer(s) until he's penniless, because he made a "nuke Mecca" joke.
Trolly McAwesome
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Fri Jul 07 12:20:24 2017
So you're against bullying online? /snickers
Hot Rod
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Fri Jul 07 13:02:41 2017

Dukhat - Obaminated proves once again why he is the stupidest poster on this board.


Thanks duk shit.

I always thought that down deep you respected and admired me.
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