Utopia Talk / Politics / (OT) Passed my actuarial exam

Y2A Member	Fri Jul 02 16:57:17 yep, passed MFE. 3 exams down.
WaitAMinute Member	Fri Jul 02 17:05:41 Have being an office drone, fucking loser.
WaitAMinute Member	Fri Jul 02 17:06:03 And I mean that in the nicest way possible.
Cloud Strife Member	Fri Jul 02 17:20:55 `Have being an office drone, fucking loser.' It's like Oscar Wilde, Kurt Vonnegut, and Samuel Clemens came together, jizzed on a piece of toast and shoved it up Jane Austen's ass, to produce someone capable of such a locution.
Y2A Member	Fri Jul 02 17:31:47 had to look up what "locution" meant.
WaitAMinute Member	Fri Jul 02 17:33:46 I'll fuckution you!
WaitAMinute Member	Fri Jul 02 17:56:10 Besides, I doubt either of you fucks speak more than one language. Losers.
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 18:02:16 It would be "speaks", not "speak." First of all. And it's irrelevant to this discussion. You might as well say "I doubt either of you can do a backflip."
WaitAMinute Member	Fri Jul 02 18:03:59 No, dumb fucker, it is *speak* because I used a plural prior to that word. Fucks is plural meaning more than one fuck, therefore it would be speak, not speaks. Lrn 2 rd English, tardo.
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 18:04:37 Learn the difference between a subject and the object of a preposition, dumbass.
WaitAMinute Member	Fri Jul 02 18:06:05 "Learn the difference between a subject and the object of a preposition, dumbass. " You first, dipshit who reads at a 1st grade retard's level.
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 18:17:05 The subject of your sentence was "either," which is singular, which means you need a singular verb. The singular verb would be "speaks."
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Fri Jul 02 18:54:33 no, the subject is "you fucks". and what waitaminute said was fine english. you're just really retarded.
Madc0w Member	Fri Jul 02 19:04:25 SS is incorrect. If you were to use his grammar, this would be proper grammar: Does any one of you people has five dollars? Clearly, that is improper grammar.
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 19:06:34 Hmm... here is the sentence in question. I'm surprised people are so ignorant with grammar... "Besides, I doubt either of you fucks speak more than one language." Clearly, "you fucks" is the object of the proposition "of". I'm not sure what the dispute is here. The subject is "either." I'm curious what function you think "either" serves in this sentence if not the subject?
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Fri Jul 02 19:08:29 either isn't even a fucking noun. and actually, looking at it a second time, the subject is "I" and the predicate is "doubt". everything else is filler.
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 19:13:18 Madc0w, no, sorry. It's not the same. The "does" makes it the emphatic form of the verb. You say "He does have", for example, instead of "He does has". WaitAMinute was not using the emphatic.
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 19:14:01 Either is pronoun in his sentence meaning "one or the other." As in, "I doubt if one or the other of you fucks etc. etc. etc."
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Fri Jul 02 19:15:05 and yet, I is the subject.
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 19:16:04 I is the subject of "doubt". Either is the subject of "speaks".
Y2A Member	Fri Jul 02 19:20:15 "Besides, I doubt either of you fucks speak more than one language. Losers." i speak two son.
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Fri Jul 02 19:22:21 stanley, you're really really really really really really really retarded. and yes, I felt the need to emphasize it with a lot of reallys. must I delve further, or can you please just figure it out by speaking it aloud?
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 19:26:15 When people can't pick the subject out of a sentence, that is pretty sad. Anyway, the usage note from dictionary.com: "When the pronoun either is the subject and comes immediately before the verb, the verb is singular: Either is good enough. Either grows well in this soil. When either is followed by a prepositional phrase with a plural object, there is a tendency to use a plural verb, but a singular verb is more common: Either of them is (or are ) good enough. Either of the shrubs grows (or grow ) well in this soil." According to that, WaitAMinute may have been technically correct, though he didn't use the preferred convention. Not the one that would be used in any profession publication, but this is just a silly little internet forum, so who cares. I was just singling him out for being an asshole to the OP :/
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Fri Jul 02 19:27:17 good to see you're learning. you're still fucking retarded.
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 19:31:15 You owned yourself pretty heavily, though, didn't you? "no, the subject is "you fucks"" "and yet, I is the subject." "either isn't even a fucking noun."* Yikes. Is English your first language? *technically correct--it's a pronoun. But the insinuation was that it could not be a subject.
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 19:33:21 Oh, and I almost forgot this little gem: "SS is incorrect. If you were to use his grammar, this would be proper grammar: Does any one of you people has five dollars?"
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Fri Jul 02 19:39:00 I skimmed the thread, saw you being retarded. the subject of speak is you fucks. then I misread again (albeit, if you could type correctly I wouldn't have made the mistake) and thought you said either was the subject of the sentence. which is I. here's the deal: I doubt. perfectly good sentence, not very descriptive. what does he doubt? you fucks speak. because "either of" can be taken out of the sentence without changing the meaning, it's quite obvious speaks doesn't refer to either. you should also stop using decades old english.
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 19:48:40 I'm using existing English. You are making up English. You are retarded. You can't just arbitrarily take phrases out of a sentence and say "it doesn't change the meaning." Let's break this down for you. "Besides, I doubt either of you fucks speak more than one language." I think we can both agree that we don't need besides. So we have: I doubt either of you fucks speak more than one language. "Doubt" here is a transitive verb (i.e., it has an object). The object is "either of you fucks speak more than one language". The subject is "I". Now, let's look at the object, which happens to be a full sentence: "Either of you fucks speak more than one language." You CANNOT take "either of" out of that and keep it the same. It alters it dramatically. I don't even know why I'm arguing this. How can "you fucks" be the subject if it is obviously a prepositional phrase? What purpose, grammatically, does "either" serve then?
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 19:50:07 "I doubt. perfectly good sentence, not very descriptive. what does he doubt? you fucks speak. " No. That could potentially be a full sentence, but not in this context. Doubt is being used as a transitive verb. In "I doubt." it is intransitive. You're giving it a completely different grammatical purpose. You're changing the word, essentially.
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Fri Jul 02 19:54:28 it doesn't alter it at all. waitaminute was speaking to the 2 previous posters in the thread. "I doubt you fucks speak ..." is the same thing as "I doubt either of you fucks speak ...". they mean exactly the same thing. in both sentences he's saying that he questions whether cloud strife or y2a speak multiple languages. "either of" doesn't change this meaning at all.
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 19:57:48 Sigh. Just answer this question. How can "you fucks" be the subject if it is the object of a preposition?
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Fri Jul 02 20:01:07 I've already answered that. but you're stupid, so it doesn't surprise me that you don't get it.
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 20:03:03 And yes, it does change the meaning. It's subtle, but it is there. Saying "both of you don't know two languages" is different than saying "one or the other of you don't know two languages." For all intents and purposes, yes, they are the same. But "both" is plural and "one is singular." There's a difference between referring to two people as a whole and to two people individually. There's no practical difference, maybe, but there's a difference and that difference dictates the grammar.
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 20:03:27 No, you have not answered it. If you have, do it again. How can it be both the subject and the object of a prepositional phrase?
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Fri Jul 02 20:09:16 lets see if you understand this: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/either%5B1%5D
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 20:11:35 What is your point? http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/either
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Fri Jul 02 20:13:37 apparently not. either was referring to both. which makes it an adjective. not a pronoun.
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 20:14:58 That doesn't even make any sense. In this context how could either be an adjective? What is it modifying? Of? lol..?
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 20:16:51 As an adjective it means "one or the other of two" One or the other of two of you fucks?
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Fri Jul 02 20:17:55 "â??adjective 1. one or the other of two: You may sit at either end of the table. 2. each of two; the one and the other: There are trees on either side of the river." each of two. you fucking retard. and it's modifying "you fucks".
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 20:18:40 Okay.. Each of two of you fucks? Do are you even paying attention to what you're saying?
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 20:18:52 sans do
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 20:20:16 The only meaning that makes sense is its pronoun meaning. "one or the other" You can pretend it's not a pronoun just so you can pretend it's not the subject.
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 20:22:06 *can't
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 20:31:21 Okay, let's put it in a way that's easier to understand. The pronoun "you" is not inflected so it's difficult to see. What if it wasn't neither of YOU, but neither of US? "I doubt if either of us fucks speak more than one language." Do you see it now? "Us fucks" can't be the subject because "us" is the objective form of the pronoun and more or less by definition cannot be the subject.
Cloud Strife Member	Fri Jul 02 22:55:27 ` Does any one of you people has five dollars? ' SS is correct. This is waytofail's approach. The subject here is one, one goes with have. That's why SS is correct.
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Fri Jul 02 23:35:10 facepalm. each of two is the meaning. that doesn't mean you replace the word with it. but if you're hellbent, replace either with both.
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 23:42:30 Both =/= either. Both means one AND the other. Either means one OR the other. Either is NOT an adjective in the sentence. It is a pronoun. "that doesn't mean you replace the word with it." Yes it does. If it meant the same thing you could substitute it in. Jesus Christ, use your BRAIN. Look at the way the word is being USED. It isn't an adjective. Do you even know what an adjective IS? It is a pronoun. "Of you fucks" is a prepositional phrase. You take it out, you are left with: "I doubt either speaks more than one language." What speaks? EITHER speaks. It is a PRONOUN. It is not an adjective because it IS NOT PERFORMING THE FUNCTION OF AN ADJECTIVE.
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 23:45:12 If it were an adjective it would be used like this: "I doubt either person speaks more than one language." Then it is an adjective because it is modifying person. But that wasn't how it was used!
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 23:46:04 Or even better: "I doubt either fuck speaks more than one language."
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 23:50:43 I even provided this usage note from dictionary.com "When the pronoun either is the subject and comes immediately before the verb, the verb is singular: Either is good enough. Either grows well in this soil. When either is followed by a prepositional phrase with a plural object, there is a tendency to use a plural verb, but a singular verb is more common: Either of them is (or are ) good enough. Either of the shrubs grows (or grow ) well in this soil." See? "Either of them is good enough." Either is used here the same way as in our sentence. And it says it's a pronoun!!!
Stanley Stampede Member	Fri Jul 02 23:52:20 Why are people so dogmatically stupid! Why must dogma and stupidity come together so often!
Clitoral Hood The Bloody Scourge	Sat Jul 03 04:35:28 rambling morons are amusing from time to time. you stopped about 5 posts ago. and are still wrong.
WaitAMinute Member	Sat Jul 03 09:52:23 You contradict yourself, Stanley Stupid. Stanley - "It would be "speaks", not "speak." First of all. And it's irrelevant to this discussion. You might as well say "I doubt either of you can do a backflip." " Stanley later on - "See? "Either of them is good enough." Either is used here the same way as in our sentence. And it says it's a pronoun!!! " The important thing to note is that Stanley used *is* not *are* in his example sentence, admitting that I used perfect in my sentence. I doubt either of you fucks *graduate* from a university.
WaitAMinute Member	Sat Jul 03 09:53:34 *perfect grammar*
Stanley Stampede Member	Sat Jul 03 11:41:54 "The important thing to note is that Stanley used *is* not *are* in his example sentence, admitting that I used perfect in my sentence." Are you a fucking moron? The example I used (the example from dictionary.com) uses a singular verb. You used a plural verb. Dumbass. Speaks and is are singular. The word you used, speak, is plural. I did not contradict myself. You are just a moron.
Stanley Stampede Member	Sat Jul 03 11:42:18 "you stopped about 5 posts ago. and are still wrong." What am I wrong about?
Y2A Member	Sat Jul 03 11:42:53 can u guys stop being fags?
Stanley Stampede Member	Sat Jul 03 11:44:41 Just because I'm ass fucking these morons doesn't mean I'm a fag.
Pierre Member	Sat Jul 03 11:46:52 good job...!
The Guardian Member	Sat Jul 03 12:09:51 Congrats Y2A.
WaitAMinute Member	Sat Jul 03 12:43:32 "Are you a fucking moron? The example I used (the example from dictionary.com) uses a singular verb. You used a plural verb. Dumbass. " The difference between "either of them" and "either of you fucks" is...? "You fucks" is pretty closely equivalent to "them". "can u guys stop being fags? " Quiet bitch.
Stanley Stampede Member	Sat Jul 03 12:47:04 You're right. It is basically equivalent to "them." And the rules would still apply even if you'd said "them." You would use a singular verb. Not because "them" is singular, because it isn't. It's because "either" is singular. Either means "one or the other," so it is singular.
Adolf Hitler Member	Sat Jul 03 13:04:06 ^Indeed.
WaitAMinute Member	Sat Jul 03 13:07:26 I know I'm right. Just happy to see you finally admit it. Remember when you said: "It would be "speaks", not "speak." First of all. And it's irrelevant to this discussion. You might as well say "I doubt either of you can do a backflip." " Glad to see you have come around. Carry on.
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