Utopia Talk / Politics / OT - For Your Listening Pleasure

Liberal Member	Sat Oct 10 16:11:35 Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQcFjORm5yM Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C-CxxMkR8E This one is different: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeubYQ2exJo And last, but certainly not least: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep3h-2r_q98 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZIFhJ6fyzk&NR=1 His Best of the three: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R0t0d1CGzk&NR=1
NeverWoods Member	Sat Oct 10 16:13:35 Did you post the right links? I'm pretty sure you just posted wrong links rod. I don't see Obama in that links.
Liberal Member	Sat Oct 10 16:17:07 It is not about Obama. It is some music I enjoy and I think some of you will too. I would even venture to say some folks on this forum have not heard this kind of music before. Some, certainly not all.
Rugian Member	Sat Oct 10 16:59:01 I expected Zeppelin. Once again you disappoint, Rod.
Liberal Member	Sat Oct 10 19:04:51 You didn't.
Liberal Member	Sat Oct 10 19:09:41 You guys really should check these out. They are unique and I think you will like some of it.
Firestorm Phoenix Member	Sat Oct 10 19:19:07 Hey, Poison makes threads like these in the HO!
Liberal Member	Sat Oct 10 19:29:25 If Poison is your cultural mentor then perhaps you should not listen. If you are capable of thinking for yourself, perhaps you should.
nhill Member	Sat Oct 10 20:43:42 Poisons is apparently your cultural mentor since you fucking copy his thread, oldfag.
Cthulhu Member	Sat Oct 10 20:45:51 couldn't have at least posted Alex Harvey or Citizen Steely Dan?
nhill Member	Sat Oct 10 20:47:11 HR has no taste.
nhill Member	Sat Oct 10 20:47:44 What do you expect? All his threads are ideas from his best friend Poison in the HO HR=HOER
Liberal Member	Sat Oct 10 20:55:32 He is your mentor because he will not allow you to listen to the music I am sharing. Poison controls you guys. Let me tell you what my threads are about The 1st two are Japanese Taiko Drums The next is The Los Angeles/St Petersburg Balalaika Orchestra And the last group is Ivan Rebroff singing Russian music. He is unique. Listen to them or not, I really don't care. I was just trying to share something that you might enjoy. But, as always, if I try to do something nice for you guys you attack me and insult me. I think that says a great deal more about your lack of character than mine so go fuck yourselves.
nhill Member	Sat Oct 10 20:56:40 Do you need me to call the whaaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance for you? Fucking whiner.
nhill Member	Sat Oct 10 20:58:00 In all seriousness, the drum stuff would be pretty cool live. Sounds like crap on youtube though. Not gonna "click" the rest since you botched the links.
Liberal Member	Sat Oct 10 20:58:50 Why don't you go ask Poison if he will let you?
nhill Member	Sat Oct 10 20:59:49 ^more whining.
Liberal Member	Sat Oct 10 21:04:02 Guess you don't know how to connect to YouTube, they work fine for me. Ask poison how to C&P so you can connect the link.
nhill Member	Sat Oct 10 21:05:30 No, I mean they aren't links. They are just text. I'm not gonna waste time CPing anything you post.
Liberal Member	Sat Oct 10 21:07:07 Why don't you invest in some decent speakers instead of the tin ones that came with your Commodore?
nhill Member	Sat Oct 10 21:09:00 Haha, nice try old man, but my speakers are more expensive than your computer. Which is why youtube just ain't cutting it. I've got refined taste and the 24 kbps audio quality is worse than your FM radio. Pay attention, you may learn something. =)
Liberal Member	Sat Oct 10 21:09:34 Moron, you only get one clickable link to a post on this forum. If you are that fucking lazy you have no business on this forum sop go away.
nhill Member	Sat Oct 10 21:10:16 Oh, I've got business here all right. It's twisting your panties until a bit of sand falls out of your wrinkled old vagina.
nhill Member	Sat Oct 10 21:11:50 As for the one link per post, you are correct, but do you just get 1 post per thread? Hahaha, thinking inside the box as usual. You couldn't find your way out of a wet paper sack.
Liberal Member	Sat Oct 10 21:14:41 LOL, and then you would whine about spam. You should try not to fall asleep when Poison is teaching you.
nhill Member	Sat Oct 10 21:16:17 I do try, really, I do. But he assigns me to read a few of your worthless posts and I just can't help myself. You really are boring as fuck, you know that?
Liberal Member	Sat Oct 10 21:19:48 Well, you are excused as long as you are following the teachings of someone better than you. It isn't you fault your attention span is so short yo cannot stay awake. Frankly, you are boring me. Ta Ta.
nhill Member	Sat Oct 10 21:20:57 I'm not boring you, sweetheart. I've got you so riled up you can't even type coherent English. The "Ta Ta" is cute though. We all know you are just gonna pretend to be away for 20 minutes.
Violent US Redneck Member	Sat Oct 10 21:23:42 i wasnt going to post anything critical in this thread because for once, even though it was lame, at least it wasnt fascist lies and slander and extremely bad attempts at debate, but since its gone this way anyway, you might as well face it Hot Rod, all those years of being an ass has given you a reputation that would make poison proud. And its way too far gone for you to ever change that.
Liberal Member	Sat Oct 10 21:31:00 My reputation is, I kick you futard's asses more often than not and that is what has your little pink panties in a twist.
Rugian Member	Sat Oct 10 21:33:44 Hot Rod is what legal experts like to call "libel proof." Such is the damage he's caused to his reputation.
Violent US Redneck Member	Sat Oct 10 21:55:10 Are you really insane enough to believe thats your reputation around here...?
Violent US Redneck Member	Sat Oct 10 21:58:34 And werent you never going to respond to hot rod...? Unintelligent mongrel that constantly pwns yourself...?
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:39 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:43 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:44 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:45 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:46 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:47 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:48 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:49 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:49 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:49 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:50 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:51 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:52 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:52 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:53 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:54 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:54 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:56 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:56 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:57 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:58 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:59 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:59 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:18:59 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:00 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:01 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:01 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:02 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:03 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:03 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:04 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:05 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:06 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:07 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:07 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:07 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:08 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:09 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:09 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:10 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:11 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:11 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:12 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:13 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:13 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:14 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:15 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:15 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:16 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:17 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:17 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:18 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:19 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:20 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:20 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:21 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:21 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:22 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:23 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:24 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:24 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:25 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:25 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:37 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:38 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:39 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:40 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
ounyvvcexe56uu Member	Sat Oct 10 22:19:41 , as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the two sides clear a last-minute snag. "It was pulled back from the brink," said a senior U.S. official The Turkish and Armenian foreign ministers signed the agreement in the Swiss city of Zurich after a dispute over the final statements they would make. In the end, the signing took place about three hours later and there were no spoken statements. Officials say Clinton and mediators from Switzerland intervened to help broker a solution. The accord is expected to win ratification from both nations' parliaments and could lead to a reopening of their border, which has been closed for 16 years. But nationalists on both sides are still seeking to derail implementation of the deal. American officials said Clinton; the top U.S. diplomat for Europe, Philip Gordon; and Swiss Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey were engaged in furious high-stakes shuttle diplomacy with the Turkish and Armenian delegations to resolve the differences. Diplomats said the Armenians were concerned about wording in the Turkish statement that was to be made after the signing ceremony at University of Zurich and had expressed those concerns "at the last minute" before the scheduled signing ceremony. Clinton had arrived at the ceremony venue after meeting separately with the Turks and Armenians at a hotel, but abruptly departed without leaving her car when the problem arose. She returned to the hotel where she spoke by phone from the sedan in the parking lot, three times with the Armenians and four times with the Turks. At one point in the intervention, a Swiss police car, lights and siren blazing, brought a Turkish diplomat to the hotel from the university with a new draft of his country's statement. After nearly two hours, Clinton and Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian met in person at the hotel and drove back to the university where negotiations continued. It was not clear if there would be a resolution. In the end, the Turks and Armenians signed an accord establishing diplomatic ties in hope of reopening their border and ending a century of acrimony over their bloody past. Their parliaments are expected to ratify it, but nationalists on both sides are seeking to derail implementation of the agreement. Protests have been particularly vociferous among the Armenian diaspora. "The success of Turkey in pressuring Armenia into accepting these humiliating, one-sided protocols proves, sadly, that genocide pays," said Ken Hachikian, chairman of the Armenian National Committee of America. Major countries, however, expressed their support for the accord, with the foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, France and the European Union in the room to watch the much-delayed signing. "No problem, they signed," quipped French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner. In Turkey, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country was showing "goodwill" to restore ties with Armenia. But he said Turkey was keen on seeing Armenian troops withdrawn from Nagorno-Karabakh, an Armenian-occupied enclave in Azerbaijan that has been a center of regional tensions. "We are trying to boost our relations with Armenia in a way that will cause no hard feelings for Azerbaijan," Erdogan told reporters. Armenian President Serge Sarkisian said his country was taking "responsible decisions" in normalizing relations with Turkey, despite what he called the unhealable wounds of genocide. The agreement calls for a panel to discuss "the historical dimension" of the killing of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians during World War I. The discussion is to include "an impartial scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations." That clause is viewed as a concession to Turkey, which denies genocide, contending the toll is inflated and that those killed were victims of civil war. "There is no alternative to the establishment of the relations with Turkey without any precondition," said Sarkisian. "It is the dictate of the time." Clinton, Kouchner and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov were among the leaders who were on hand to watch the signing as it took place. Better ties between Turkey, a regional heavyweight, and poor, landlocked Armenia are a priority for President Barack Obama. They could help reduce tensions in the troubled Caucasus region and facilitate its growing role as a corridor for energy supplies bound for the West. Javier Solana, the EU's foreign policy chief, thanked Turkey, which is a candidate for European Union membership. "This is an important cooperation, no doubt, of Turkey to solve one issue that pertains to a region which is in our neighborhood," Solana told AP Television News after arriving in Zurich. Switzerland, which mediated six weeks of talks between Turkey and Armenia to reach the accord, hosted the signing. Necati Cetinkaya, a deputy chairman of Turkey's governing Justice and Development Party, defended the deal, saying "sincere steps that are being taken will benefit Turkey." He said Turkey is aiming to form friendly ties with all its neighbors and could benefit from trade with Armenia. But Yilmaz Ates of the main opposition Republican People's Party said Turkey should avoid any concessions. "If Armenia wants to repair relations ... then it should end occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh. That's it," Ates said Saturday. About 10,000 protesters rallied Friday in Armenia's capital to oppose the signing, and a tour of Armenian communities by Sarkisian sparked protests in Lebanon and France, with demonstrators in Paris shouting "Traitor!" On the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, Turks have close cultural and linguistic ties with Azerbaijan, which is pressing Turkey for help in recovering its land. Turkey shut its border with Armenia to protest the Armenian invasion of Nagorno-Karabakh in 1993. Turkey wants Armenia to withdraw some troops from the enclave area to show goodwill and speed the opening of their joint border, but Armenia has yet to agree, said Omer Taspinar, Turkey project director at the Brookings Institution in Washington. "We may end up in a kind of awkward situation where there are diplomatic relations, but the border is still closed," Taspinar said. Associated Press Writers Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper in Zurich, Avet Demourian in Yerevan, Armenia, and Christopher Torchia in Istanbul contributed to this report. http://new...each-historic-accord%2F413295] Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 21:14:13 So whats your fucking sarcasm about, cuntface? Oh I know, jealousy because nothing good like this ever came about during georgy, you traitorous, unpatriotic turd. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:07:26 You Sir, whomever you are, are a complete and total fool. My apologies to the fools of the world. This is an important development and kudos earned should be given where they are deserved. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:18 No see, Im completely logical. After all the lies you constantly post about the democrats, the logical thing is to take this as yet more of your unfathomable stupidity. But if you for once weren't being a dumbass clever dick then let it be recorded that HR hurras for Hilary Clinton. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:11:50 This is of course, yet one more downside of having as bad a reputation as you have. Liberal Member Sat Oct 10 22:12:56 Go fuck yourself futard. Violent US Redneck Member Sat Oct 10 22:14:50 only if you hang yourself first, you stupid fucking cunt :)
Mavl Member	Sun Oct 11 17:49:48 RIP Rebroff, he was the man. You might also like Helmut Lotti's version of Cossack Patrol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJncDnmbG0E
Liberal Member	Sun Oct 11 17:57:46 I did not know he had passed, the world is the poorer. R.I.P.
Liberal Member	Sun Oct 11 18:17:48 And thanks for introducing me to Lotti. He is marvelous and I will be sure to ad some of his albums to my collection. I love The Russian Folk Music. It is happy and exciting and uplifting like the Greek Folk Music.
Rugian Member	Sun Oct 11 18:23:20 It's Slav music. The music of subhuman peasants. It is no more deserving of existance than the Slavs themselves.
Liberal Member	Sun Oct 11 18:26:09 It is a great deal more deserving than you are you racist shit eating crud that is nowhere good enough to lick the feet of a slav. No offense intended.
Rugian Member	Sun Oct 11 18:30:18 What have the Slavs done to EVER justify their existence on this world? They produce nothing except for alcohol and HIV-infested whores. They have always been backwards people standing in the way of progress. They're one of the only "white" peoples that can't handle Western democracy and freedoms. Their language is coarse and barbaric; they are unjustifiably arrogant thanks to a largely revisionist view of history, and they have murdered millions of people and spread ideologies of terror previously unknown to this planet. NOTHING they have ever done makes me think of them as having value in any way. They deserve to die, period.
Liberal Member	Sun Oct 11 18:40:08 The make beautiful music and that makes them far more worthy to live than a racist POS like you.
Rugian Member	Sun Oct 11 18:48:57 About their "music": it's shit and it's yet another thing that lowers my respect for you. Which is pretty impressive considering that you're already a worthless piece of dirt.
Mavl Member	Sun Oct 11 19:05:41 You think you know more about music than Rebroff and Lotti, Rugian?
Liberal Member	Sun Oct 11 19:11:36 All Rugian knows and understands is a putrid hate.
Rugian Member	Sun Oct 11 19:19:07 Hood, shut the fuck up. Hot Rod, I'll keep your words in mind the next time I see you blindly attacking "liberals."
Mavl Member	Sun Oct 11 19:29:46 Rugian, if your government abandones using subhuman slavic creations like helicopters, stealth and radio the world will be a better place, so maybe you should try running for president. You haven't answered my question though: You think you know more about music than Rebroff and Lotti?
Liberal Member	Sun Oct 11 20:06:45 Rugian, you would be better served to remember my words the next time you attack my deceased mother who never did you any harm and passed away before you were even born. Your putrid hate exposed you for exactly the kind of person you are when you did that. You Sir, are not civilized.
steveY New Member	Sun Oct 11 20:24:25 ROFL IS IT TRUE THAT YOUR FATHER WAS A GESTAPO OFFICER THAT USED TO FUCK YOU IN THE ASS WHILE YOU FISTED YOUR DEAD NAZI WHORE PROSTITUTE CUNT OF A MOM YOU FILTHY NAZI BASTARD?
Sarcasm Member	Sun Oct 11 20:45:48 zing
www.nowecantsong.org Member	Thu Oct 15 11:16:33 Your continued donations keep Wikipedia running! Glenn Beck From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search This article is semi-protected until January 17, 2010 to prevent libelous additions. Glenn Beck Glenn Beck on a book tour for An Inconvenient Book, in 2007 Born Glenn Lee Beck February 10, 1964 (1964-02-10) (age 45) Everett, Washington, USA Residence New Canaan, Connecticut Nationality American Education Sehome High School Occupation Media proprietor (host/owner of eponymous talk radio show and television show, related website and magazine) author live entertainer Home town Mount Vernon, Washington Salary US$ $23,000,000 [1] Religious beliefs The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon)[2] Spouse(s) Claire (1983-1994), Tania (1999-present) Children Mary, Hannah (from first marriage); Raphe, Cheyenne (from second marriage) Website http://www.glennbeck.com/ Glenn Lee Beck (born February 10, 1964) is an American talk radio and television host, conservative political commentator, author, and entrepreneur. He hosts the nationally syndicated Glenn Beck Program on Premiere Radio Networks, while also hosting the Glenn Beck Show every weekday on the Fox News Channel. He has become a popular and polarizing public figure, whose controversial views and comedic personality have afforded him widespread success along with considerable controversy. Contents [hide] * 1 Personal life * 2 Political views o 2.1 Cleon Skousen o 2.2 9-12 Project * 3 Media career and income o 3.1 Radio o 3.2 Television o 3.3 Authorship and publishing o 3.4 Live events o 3.5 Other * 4 Public reception * 5 Works * 6 See also * 7 References * 8 External links Personal life Glenn Beck was born in February, 1964 in Everett, Washington. His parents, William and Mary, lived in Mountlake Terrace, Washington at the time of Beck's birth[3] and sometime later moved their family to the Skagit County town of Mount Vernon, Washington.[4] There, his parents owned and operated City Bakery in downtown Mount Vernon.[5] Beck was raised as a Roman Catholic and attended Mount Vernon's private Immaculate Conception Catholic school. At 13, Beck won a contest that landed him his first broadcast gig as a deejay for his hometown radio station, KBRC.[6] Beck's parents were divorced in 1977 and the 13 year-old Beck moved with his mother to Sumner, Washington, attending school in Puyallup. In 1979, his mother died in a boating accident in Puget Sound waters, just west of Tacoma. The man who had taken her fishing also drowned in the boating incident. A Tacoma police report filed after the drowning stated that Mary Beck "appeared to be a classic drowning victim".[7] A Coast Guard investigator, referencing Mary's heart and psychiatric conditions, speculated she could have either fallen or jumped overboard.[7] After his mother's death, Beck and his older sister moved to their fatherâ??s home in Bellingham,[6] where Beck graduated from Sehome High School in 1982.[8] In the aftermath of his mother's death and subsequent suicide of his stepbrother, Beck has said he used "Dr. Jack Daniel's" to cope. At 18, following high-school graduation, Beck relocated to Provo, Utah and worked at radio station KAYK, but stayed in Utah for only six months. Feeling he "didn't fit in", Beck left Utah,[9] taking a job at Washington D.C.'s WPGC in February, 1983.[10] It was while working at WPGC that Beck met his first wife, Claire.[11] The couple married and subsequently had two daughters, Mary and Hannah; daughter Mary was born in 1988 with cerebral palsy, the result of a series of strokes at birth.[11] The couple divorced in 1994 amid Beck's struggles with substance abuse. Along with being a recovering alcoholic and drug addict[12], Beck has been diagnosed with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.[13] He cites the help of Alcoholics Anonymous in his sobriety and attended his first AA meeting in November 1994, the month he states he stopped drinking alcohol and smoking marijuana.[14] In 1996, while working for a New Haven-area radio station, Beck was admitted to Yale University through a special program for non-traditional students. One of his recommendations for admittance came from Senator Joe Lieberman. Beck took one theology class, "Early Christology," and then dropped out.[14][15] In 1999, Beck married his second wife, Tania.[14] They joined The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in October 1999, partly at the urging of his daughter Mary.[16][17] The couple have two children, Raphe and Cheyenne, and currently live in New Canaan, Connecticut. In 2002 Beck created Mercury Radio Arts, a media platform which produces his broadcast, publishing and online projects, as well as his live performances. Political views Beck says of his political views, "I consider myself a libertarian. I'm a conservative, but every day that goes by I'm fighting for individual rights."[18] Among his core values Beck lists personal responsibility, private charity, right to life, freedom of religion, low debt, limited government, and family as the cornerstone of society.[19] Beck supports individual gun ownership rights and is against gun control legislation.[20] He has suggested that President Barack Obama's health care reform agenda is a means by which Obama can effect reparations for slavery.[21] Beck believes that there is a lack of evidence that human activity is the main cause of global warming,[22] views the American Clean Energy and Security Act as a form of wealth redistribution, and has promoted a petition rejecting the Kyoto Protocol.[23] Cleon Skousen According to Joanna Brooks, a scholar of American religion, one pre-eminent philosophical influence on Beck's political ideology has been W. Cleon Skousen (1913â??2006).[24] Skousen was an anti-communist, a supporter (though not a member) of the John Birch Society,[25] and limited-government conservative[26] whose works involve a diverse range of subjects (including, for example, the Six-Day War, Mormon eschatology, New World Order conspiracies, and even child rearing).[26] Beck praises Skousen's "words of wisdom" as "divinely inspired", referencing Skousen's The Naked Communist [27] and especially The 5,000 Year Leap (originally published in 1981),[26] which Beck said in 2007 had "changed his life".[26] According to Skousen's nephew, financial and political commentator Mark Skousen, Leap reflects Skousen's "passion for the United States Constitution," which he "felt was inspired by God and the reason behind Americaâ??s success as a nation."[28] The book is touted by Beck as "required reading" to understand the current American political landscape and become a "September twelfth person".[29] Beck authored a foreword for the 2008 edition of Leap and Beck's on-air recommendations in 2009 propelled the book to number one in the government category on Amazon for several months.[26][30] 9-12 Project A group of protesters hold signs reading we â?¥ glenn beck at the Taxpayer March on Washington. Main article: 9-12 Project Beck put together a campaign, the 9-12 Project, that is named for nine principles and twelve values which he says embody the spirit of the American people on the day after the September 11 attacks.[31] Beck has supported the tea party protests from their inception and held a broadcast from one of the April 2009 rallies in San Antonio.[32] In September 2009, the conservative political activism group FreedomWorks organized the Taxpayer March on Washington, to rally against President Obama's policies.[33] The event was inspired by Beck's 9/12 project.[34] Media career and income In addition to broadcasting, Beck has written three New York Times-bestselling books, and is the publisher of Fusion Magazine. He also stars in a one-man stage show that tours the US twice a year.[35] In June 2009, estimators at Forbes magazine pegged Beck's earnings over the previous 12 months at $23 million, with 2009-2010 revenues on track to be even higher.[36] Although the majority of his revenue results from his radio show and books, his website's 5 million unique visitors per month also draws at least $3 million annually, while his salary at Fox News is estimated at $2 million per year.[36] Additionally, Beck's online magazine Fusion, sells an array of Beck-themed merchandise.[36] Radio See also: Glenn Beck Program Radio historian Marc Fisher has posited that Beck is "first and foremost an entertainer, who happens to have stumbled into a position of political prominence."[36] Beck began his radio career in 1977, at age 13, when he won a local radio contest on station KBRC in Mount Vernon, Washington, to be a disc jockey for an hour. It was then that Beck and his school classmates produced old-time radio with live scripts and sound effects for radio station, KGMI, in Bellingham. In his junior year of high school, he began working part-time at Seattle station KUBE 93 (FM) having to take a Greyhound Bus from Bellingham to Seattle in order to get there. After hosting a show midnight to dawn on Fridays and Saturdays, Beck would sleep in the station's conference room following his show.[6][37] Following high school graduation, Beck pursued his career as a Top 40 DJ. He moved to Provo for six months and worked at FM 96.1.[9] Beck left in February 1983 to go to WPGC-FM in Washington, D.C., another First Media radio station. Later that year, he moved to Corpus Christi, Texas, to work at radio station KZFM.[11] In mid-1985, Beck was hired away from KZFM to be the lead DJ for the morning-drive radio broadcast by WRKA in Louisville, Kentucky.[11] His four-hour weekday show was called Captain Beck and the A-Team.[38] With Beck at the lead during morning drive, WRKA slipped to third in the market. Beck was fired in late 1986.[11] In early 1987, Beck was hired by the Top 40 powerhouse KOY-FM, known as Y-95, in Phoenix, Arizona. Beck, then 23, was partnered with Tim Hattrick, a 26-year-old Arizona native. Beck resigned from Y-95 to accept a job in Houston, where he began working in early 1989 at KRBE, known as Power 104. He was fired in 1990 because of poor ratings.[11] Beck would later tell the Houston Chronicle that his stint at Power 104 "was the worst time in my broadcasting career..."[39] Beck then moved to Baltimore, Maryland, to work at the city's leading Top 40 station, WBSB, known as B104. There he partnered with Pat Gray, a 27-year-old morning DJ. During his tenure at B104, Beck was arrested for speeding in his DeLorean with one of the car's gull-wing doors wide open.[40] According to a former colleague, Beck was "completely out of it" when a B104 manager went down to the station to bail him out.[40] After a year of struggling personally and professionally, Beck found himself working alone when Gray's contract was canceled. When Beck was fired also, the two men spent six months in Baltimore living off of their severance, unemployed and planning their next move. That was, in early 1992, to WKCI-FM (KC101), a Top 40 radio station in Hamden, Connecticut.[14] At WKCI, Gray and Beck co-hosted the local four-hour morning show, billed as the Glenn and Pat Show. On a 1995 broadcast of the show, Alf Papineau pretended to speak Chinese during a taped comedy skit. When an Asian-American listener called to complain, Gray and Beck made fun of the caller and played gongs in the background while Papineau spoke in a mock-Chinese accent. The listener contacted a number of human rights organizations, four of which formed the Connecticut Asian American Coalition Against KC101 Racism. The station manager read an apology on the air and the station issued a written pledge to refrain from offensive activities and instituted cultural sensitivity training for employees.[41] When Gray left the show to move to Salt Lake City, Beck continued with co-host Vinnie Penn. At the end of 1998, Beck was told that his contract would not be renewed when it expired at the end of the 1999.[14] The Glenn Beck Program first aired in 2000 on WFLA (AM) in Tampa, Florida, and took their afternoon time slot from eighteenth to first place within a year.[42][43] In January 2002, Premiere Radio Networks launched the show nationwide on forty-seven stations. The show then moved to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, broadcasting from new flagship station WPHT. On November 5, 2007, The New York Times reported that Premiere Radio Networks was extending Beck's contract. By May 2008, it had reached over 280 terrestrial stations as well as XM Satellite. It was ranked 4th in the nation with over six and a half million listeners.[44] Television See also: Glenn Beck (TV program) In January 2006, CNN's Headline News announced that Beck would host a nightly news-commentary show in their new prime-time block Headline Prime. The show, simply called Glenn Beck, aired weeknights at 7:00 p.m., repeating at 9:00 p.m. and midnight (all times Eastern) from May 8, 2006 to October 16, 2008. By 2007, Beck's success on CNN had ABC wanting him for occasional appearances on Good Morning America.[citation needed] CNN Headline News described the show as "an unconventional look at the news of the day featuring his often amusing perspective on the top stories from world events and politics to pop culture and everyday hassles."[45] At the end of his time at CNN-HLN, Beck had the second largest audience behind Nancy Grace.[46] On July 21, 2008, Beck filled in for Larry King on the show Larry King Live.[47] In 2008, Beck won the Marconi Radio Award for Network Syndicated Personality of the Year.[48] On October 16, 2008, it was announced that Glenn Beck would join the Fox News Channel, leaving behind CNN Headline News. CNN pulled the program off the air the same day. A news hour with Jane Velez-Mitchell filled Beck's former slot, with subsequent slots filled by Lou Dobbs Tonight encores.[49] After moving to the Fox News Channel, Beck began to host Glenn Beck airing weekdays at 5pm ET, beginning January 19 2009, as well as a weekend version.[50] His first guests included Alaska Governor Sarah Palin and the wives of Jose Compean and Ignacio Ramos.[51] He also has a regular segment every Friday on the Fox News Channel program The O'Reilly Factor titled "At Your Beck and Call."[52] Beck's program currently draws more viewers than all three of the competing time-slot shows on CNN, MSNBC and HLN combined.[53][54] Authorship and publishing Ambox style.png This article is in a list format that may be better presented using prose. You can help by converting this article to prose, if appropriate. Editing help is available. (October 2009) Beck is also a well-renowned author. He has authored the following books: * The Real America: Messages from the Heart and Heartland, published by Pocket Books. * An Inconvenient Book, published by Simon and Shuster. #1 New York Times Bestseller for the week of December 9, 2007. * The Christmas Sweater, published by Simon and Shuster. #1 New York Times Bestseller for the weeks of November 30, 2008, and December 25, 2008. * America's March to Socialism: Why We're One Step Closer to Giant Missile Parades, an audiobook published by Simon and Shuster. * Glenn Beck's Common Sense: The Case Against an Out-Of-Control Government, Inspired by Thomas Paine, published by Simon and Shuster. #1 New York Times Bestseller beginning the week of July 4, 2009, and currently retains that position (10/8/09). * Arguing with Idiots: How to Stop Small Minds and Big Government, published by Simon and Shuster. #1 New York Times Bestseller beginning the week of September 30, 2009, and currently retains that position (10/8/09) Glenn Beck is one of the few people to hit #1 on the New York Times New York Times Bestseller List in three separate categories: Hardcover Non-Fiction (Arguing with Idiots), Paperback Non-Fiction (Common Sense), and Hardcover Fiction (The Christmas Sweater). Beck is the publisher of Fusion Magazine, which is a play on the slogan of the The Glenn Beck Program, "The Fusion of Entertainment and Enlightenment." Live events Since 2005, Beck has toured American cities twice a year, presenting a one-man stage show. His stage productions are a mix of stand-up comedy and inspirational speaking.[55] In a critique of his live act, Salon Magazine's Steve Almond describes Beck as a "wildly imaginative performer, a man who weds the operatic impulses of the demagogue to the grim mutterings of the conspiracy theorist." [56] In 2005, the summer show Glenn Beck: On Ice advocated diminishing the role of politics in daily life. The 2006 summer show The Mid-Life Crisis Tour featured life's lessons from the perspective of a middle-aged man. In June 2007, Beck completed his tour called An Inconvenient Tour. It focused on the inconvenient aspects of everyday life, and was a parody of Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth. A show from the Beck `08 Unelectable Tour was shown in around 350 movie theaters around the country.[57] The finale of 2009's Common Sense Comedy Tour was simulcast in over 440 theaters.[58] The events have drawn 200,000 fans in recent years.[36] Beck has done numerous other live events. In March 2003, Beck ran a series of rallies called Glenn Beck's Rally for America in support of troops deployed for the upcoming Iraq War. On July 4, 2007, Beck served as host of the 2007 Toyota Tundra "Stadium of Fire" in Provo, Utah. The annual event at LaVell Edwards Stadium on the Brigham Young University campus is presented by America's Freedom Foundation, a non-profit organization whose mission is "to provide deeply felt emotional experiences that celebrate and promote the traditional American values of family, freedom, God and country."[59] On May 17, 2008, Beck gave the keynote speech at the NRA convention in Louisville, Kentucky.[60] In Beck's hometown of Mt. Vernon, Washington, supporters and detractors hold handmade signs on the day Beck was honored by the mayor. In late August 2009, the mayor of Mount Vernon, Washington, Beck's hometown, announced that he would award Beck the Key to the City, designating September 26, 2009 as "Glenn Beck Day". Due to some local opposition, the city council voted unanimously to disassociate itself from the award.[61] The key presentation ceremony sold-out the 850-seat McIntyre Hall and an estimated 800 people, both supporting and opposing the event, demonstrated outside the building.[62] Earlier that day, approximately 7,000 people attended the Evergreen Freedom Foundation's "Take the Field with Glenn Beck" at Seattle's Safeco Field.[62] Other While working in Connecticut, Beck appeared and sang background vocals on The Delrays' Red, White and Blues CD, a fund raising effort by then Governor John G. Rowland produced by guitarist Tom Guerra. The CD was well received and was promoted by a series of live appearances. Public reception â??The old American mind-set that Richard Hofstadter famously called the paranoid style â?? the sense that Masons or the railroads or the Pope or the guys in black helicopters are in league to destroy the country â?? is aflame again, fanned from both right and left. [...] No one has a better feeling for this mood, and no one exploits it as well, as Beck. He is the hottest thing in the political-rant racket, left or right.â??[36] â??â??David Von Drehle (Time magazine, Sep. 17, 2009 cover story) Beck's shows have been described as a "mix of moral lessons, outrage and an apocalyptic view of the future ... capturing the feelings of an alienated class of Americans."[63] One of Beck's Fox News Channel colleagues Shepard Smith, has jokingly called Beck's studio the "fear chamber", with Beck countering that he preferred the term "doom room."[36] Beck has referred to himself as an entertainer,[63] a commentator rather than a reporter,[64] a rodeo clown,[63] and identified with Howard Beale "When he came out of the rain and he was like, none of this makes any sense. I am that guy."[65] Time Magazine describes Beck as "[t]he new populist superstar of Fox News" saying it is easier to see a set of attitudes rather than a specific ideology, noting his criticism of Wall Street, yet defending bonuses to AIG, as well as denouncing conspiracies against FEMA but warning against indoctrination of children by the AmeriCorps program.[66] What seems to unite Beck's disparate themes they note, is a sense of siege.[66] Time further describes Beck as "a gifted storyteller with a knack for stitching seemingly unrelated data points into possible conspiracies", proclaiming that he has "emerged as a virtuoso on the strings" of Conservative's discontent ... mining the timeless theme of the corrupt Them thwarting a virtuous Us."[36] In 2006, Beck asked Muslim congressman-elect Keith Ellison, a guest on his show, to "prove to me that you are not working with our enemies...And I know you're not. I'm not accusing you of being an enemy, but that's the way I feel." Ellison replied that his constituents, "know that I have a deep love and affection for my country. There's no one who's more patriotic than I am, and so you know, I don't need to â?? need to prove my patriotic stripes."[67] Beck's question, which he himself suggested was "quite possibly the poorest-worded question of all time,"[68] resulted in protests from several Arab-American organizations.[69] During the 2009 Henry Louis Gates controversy, Beck argued that President Barack Obama has repeatedly shown "a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture," saying "I'm not saying he doesn't like white people. I'm saying he has a problem. This guy is, I believe, a racist."[70] These remarks drew criticism, and resulted in a boycott promulgated by Color of Change.[71] The boycott resulted in 80 advertisers requesting their ads be removed from his programming, to avoid associating their brands with content that could be considered offensive by potential customers.[71][72][73][74][75][76][77] Due to the show's high ratings, broadcast industry observers believe Beck's potential earnings remain unharmed.[78] In July 2009, Glenn Beck began to devote what would become many episodes on his TV and radio shows, focusing on Obama's Director of White House Council on Environmental Quality, Van Jones. Beck was critical of Jones' involvement in a communist non-governmental group, and his support for hotly debated death row inmate, Mumia Abu-Jamal, who had been convicted of killing a police officer. Among other things, Beck referred to Jones as a "communist-anarchist radical".[79] It has been speculated that Beck's criticisms may have been motivated in part by Jones' prior involvement in Color of Change, the organization that had previously convinced advertisers to pull their support from Beck's TV show.[79][80] In September 2009, Jones resigned his position in the Obama administration, after a number of his past statements became fodder for conservative critics and Republican officials.[79] Time magazine credited Beck with leading conservatives' attack on Jones,[36] which Jones would characterize a "vicious smear campaign" and an effort to use "lies and distortions to distract and divide".[80] In 2009, Beck and other conservative commentators were also critical of Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) for various reasons including claims of voter fraud in the in the 2008 presidential election.[81] In September 2009, he promoted a series of undercover videos portraying community organizers offering inappropriate advice to filmmakers who posed as a pimp and prostitute while visiting various ACORN offices. Following the videos' release the U.S. Census Bureau severed ties with the group while the U.S. House and Senate voted to cut all of its federal funding.[36] The controversies throughout 2009 garnered increasing attention and Beck was featured on the cover of the September 28 issue of Time magazine. The piece called him "the hottest thing in the political-rant racket" and reported that his television program had drawn upwards of 3 million viewers in recent days.[36] He was also parodied in an impersonation by Jason Sudeikis on Saturday Night Live.[82] "Finally, a guy who says what people who aren't thinking are thinking" was a quip from The Daily Show's Jon Stewart.[83] Works * The Real America, Messages from the Heart and Heartland Simon & Schuster, 2005 ISBN 978-0-74-349696-4 * An Inconvenient Book, Real Solutions to the World's Biggest Problems Simon & Schuster, 2007 ISBN 978-1-43-916857-8 * The Christmas Sweater Simon & Schuster, 2008 ISBN 978-1-41-659485-7 * An Unlikely Mormon, The Conversion Story of Glenn Beck Deseret Book, 2008 (Audio CD) * The Christmas Sweater: A Picture Book Simon & Schuster Children's Publishing, 2009 ISBN 978-1-41-699543-2 * America's March to Socialism, Why we're one step closer to giant missile parades Simon & Schuster Audio, 2009 (Audio CD) ISBN 978-0-74-359854-5 * Glenn Beck's Common Sense, The Case Against an Out-of-Control Government Simon & Schuster, 2009 ISBN 978-1-43-916857-8 * Arguing with Idiots, How to Stop Small Minds and Big Government Simon & Schuster, 2009 ISBN 978-1-41-659501-4 See also * Beck v. 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