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tumbleweed
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Mon Dec 01 19:36:48 2014
it hasn't been noted yet how cool Rick's scene was at the beginning

Keegan-Michael Key put it as Rick now having a one strike and you're out policy (just like i support even without a zombie world :p)
Cherub Cow
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Mon Dec 01 21:41:32 2014
Yeah he wasn't messing around!
"Stop. Please stop. Dude! Stop.
Fine!" :p
Cherub Cow
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Mon Dec 01 21:51:13 2014
Talking Dead for Coda here:
http://awesomedl.ru/talking-dead-season-4-episode-8-coda/
Cherub Cow
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Mon Dec 01 22:46:24 2014
awww :'(
(@Emily Kinney's reactions)

so cool that the cast has bonded this much. That really shows in the scenes. Their reactions when it first happened, and then when they walked out and showed Maggie's expression change :'( ..
tumbleweed
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Mon Dec 01 23:49:10 2014
yeah, was sad

i wonder if she was needling Kirkman a bit w/ the personal life issues... how she moved to be on the show then had to move out after learning in ep #7 she'd be killed in #8

gotta be a little awkward knowing he killed off your character by choice
Cherub Cow
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Tue Dec 02 00:25:02 2014
Yeah! Can't tell if she was doing it for his benefit, but after that trauma Kirkman may never kill again, or he'll only kill villains and temporary red-shirts ;)
The Children
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Tue Dec 02 01:16:32 2014
so why then did she think she culd get away with that shit.

seemed a bit weird. no sane person in real life wuld stab someone when they have let her go.

seems like they needed someone 2 die and they decided it was her time.

also weird how rick is now becomin more and more ruthless.

Cherub Cow
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Tue Dec 02 01:45:29 2014
Rick kind of doesn't have a conscience unless Daryl happens to be there :D
tumbleweed
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Tue Dec 02 01:49:53 2014
i can see the Beth thing happening... i'm not sure they established the mental state necessary completely, but in theory i can see it anyway

i assume she was aiming for the neck and missed... maybe the writers didn't want her to go out as a murderer

and as i mentioned in UP, the scene may have been a nod to Django... a very similar situation occurs
Cherub Cow
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Tue Dec 02 01:51:55 2014
guess I finally have an excuse to watch Django then :)
tumbleweed
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Tue Dec 02 02:48:51 2014
there's probably lots of similar examples, but i just happened to have seen that recently :p
McKobb
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Tue Dec 02 03:14:02 2014
All I gotta say is...I'm glad it wasn't Carol! Beth was getting harder but she still was a paper tiger. I'm surprised Noah didn't stick.
swordtail
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Tue Dec 02 03:21:55 2014
http://io9...-was-tragic-for-two-1665128603
McKobb
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Tue Dec 02 03:26:03 2014
Necrocist!
McKobb
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Tue Dec 02 03:35:36 2014
Rick gave the dude a chance, you don't get that much post zombie rising.
Cherub Cow
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Mon Dec 15 03:10:26 2014
It's not worth facing Sundays without Walking Dead :(
/wrists
Cherub Cow
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Wed Dec 24 14:40:24 2014
Decided to watch the ending of the last episode again, but I let the credits run this time. Totally had missed Morgan Jones' update (it was after the credits). It looks like he'd maybe follow the trail to D.C. instead of going to ATL..?
Cherub Cow
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Mon Feb 09 01:21:04 2015
So glad I didn't kill myself after the mid-season finale. After tonight I'll have a reason to live for a few more weeks! :D :D :D
tumbleweed
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Mon Feb 09 02:54:37 2015
i wonder how long until medically induced comas are available to consumers for such purposes

i'm actually more looking forward to Better Call Saul... the first episode better be as good as the entire BB series collectively to meet my expectations
McKobb
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Mon Feb 09 03:07:17 2015
BCS starts off with a small time lawyer using his real name. Should be good.
Cherub Cow
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Mon Feb 09 03:13:33 2015
Yeah it better be the best thing EVAR!
Cherub Cow
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Mon Feb 09 21:05:03 2015
Mid-Season Premiere ( Spoilers!! )

That was an especially existential episode..
Was hoping that he would live forever :'(
McKobb
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Mon Feb 09 22:26:12 2015
Turn it off@!
tumbleweed
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Tue Feb 10 06:42:56 2015
why was there a pack of walkers at the gate on exit?

i'm beginning to think this show is faked
Cherub Cow
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Tue Feb 10 07:04:06 2015
Oh yeah.. I guess they were followed, but they were being quiet. It might be scripted like that Cardassian show?
McKobb
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Mon Feb 16 05:15:10 2015
Take me to your leader!
tumbleweed
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Mon Feb 16 05:27:22 2015
it's a guy from Total Recall to help Maggie out of her dream
Cherub Cow
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Wed Feb 18 01:26:26 2015
Very creepy guy, too: "Oh hai, I've been following you guise and know your leader's name. Trust my khakis and nice, clean clothes! Promise it's not cannibals this time. ---IT'S WORSE--- >:D" :p

Rewatched the premiere, btw. Really well directed. Like how they showed Tyreese's memories intruding into his present (even in the beginning, they were mixing flashbacks with future moments). And he kept trying to employ a deterministic fallacy like Gottfried Leibniz (for Leibniz: "best of all possible worlds" / for Tyreese: "it happened the way it was gonna happen") which is mostly just a confusing of retrospective knowledge with an impossible to predict future. Add to that his staring at the images of the twins, trying to reconcile that past and present but seeing only a disconnect. Lots moar to think about, but for me that may have been one of the best episodes of the series
tumbleweed
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Tue Feb 24 21:38:57 2015
so is Rick going crazy?

http://i2....walking-dead-vaccinnations.png
Cherub Cow
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Wed Feb 25 21:22:56 2015
Finally watched Sunday's episode ("The Distance")..

k! Guess the show is over! Good job, guise! They made it to civilization! :D It was a good show. I didn't like Season 1 or the beginning of Season 2, but it always had zombies and existentialism, so it worked for me.
tumbleweed
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Wed Feb 25 22:03:22 2015
luckily Carl brings death and destruction wherever he goes so they will destroy this community
McKobb
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Wed Feb 25 22:07:16 2015
Maybe rick will walk in and go on a spree.
Cherub Cow
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Thu Feb 26 01:48:49 2015
Probably some of the group will fail their "audition," so they'll be on the streets again. Might at least get to hear some news from a wider zombie world :)
Damian DB
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Thu Feb 26 02:46:43 2015
as a ready of the comics.. I really like where they are right now in the show :D
Cherub Cow
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Tue Mar 03 08:35:51 2015
Why no one comment anymoar? :(
I'm not watching until later tonight, so at least I have an excuse ;p
McKobb
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Tue Mar 03 13:32:53 2015
China invites the mongols for tea and rick gets a haircut and shave.
tumbleweed
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Tue Mar 03 18:11:55 2015
there's a hot new blonde babe... which doesn't bode well for her safety
Cherub Cow
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Tue Mar 03 23:49:25 2015
Cool ending! They've become the villains :D
Or Rick anyways. Or he's ready to be one. And good lols from the ROTC person being hit. Humility for his role-playing game ;p

Kind of guessing that there must be some kind of tunnel system happening, since Corrral's friend disappeared in the woods and that zombie grabbed Rick's leg from under stuff, but wasn't there before. And the missing gun, the audio parabola from the last episode, and the camera documentation make it seem like there could be heavy surveillance happening. Good mystery ahead :)
Cherub Cow
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Tue Mar 03 23:49:51 2015
"which doesn't bode well for her safety"

Yeah she might die. And a jealous husband too? Not good.
Cherub Cow
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Wed Mar 04 21:48:56 2015
..having second thoughts about the tunnel possibility. That zombie that grabbed Rick from under the debris looked like it might have just not heard him the first time that Rick came around..
Am kind of wondering if Enid (teen) knew Carl from some other disaster (like maybe Carl killed her dad at the prison or something fun like that).. if not, probably just that she recognizes a fellow wanderer and knows to be suspicious, in which case they're positioning the weak people against the strong ones, where she'd be in the strong mix and capable of joining Rick's group..

Rawr rawr. Probably not worth speculating? ;)
tumbleweed
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Thu Mar 05 04:38:16 2015
yeah Rick definitely will be killing sulking porch guy if not conquering the whole town
McKobb
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Mon Mar 09 04:54:05 2015
Heart cookies or death carol!
tumbleweed
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Mon Mar 09 07:40:16 2015
"that guy is walking with girl i like, ok to kill?" ~Rick's mind
Cherub Cow
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Wed Mar 11 01:33:40 2015
He's definitely doing deadly stuff. Like, even just strategically it's probably not a good idea to make enemies with the doctor like that :p

Yeah cookies or death was so nice! These characters have become really great people people :D
"I could murder you horribly.. or.. cookies? I prefer cookies (✿◠‿◠)"
Cherub Cow
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Thu Mar 12 01:50:39 2015
Some revisions/thoughts:
- Probably just Enid who took Rick's gun. She seems sneaky and was definitely outside the gate when they entered the first day (she was the one in the house that Carl spotted), so it makes sense that she'd have it
- Carol really shouldn't have taken that chocolate bar if she wanted to get away with taking the guns... That was clearly an inventoried/quantified item that would be noticed.

So looks like a "you cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war" situation. The Alexandria peeps seem nice, but because Rick made the decision to have a contingency plan (the extra guns), they'll make themselves the enemies. Yay!
tumbleweed
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Thu Mar 12 06:57:06 2015
was Rick missing a gun when he reached back while watching his next wife walk away w/ her current husband? i may have missed something :p
Cherub Cow
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Fri Mar 13 01:47:22 2015
Pic of that:
http://i.imgur.com/vTYOSIu.jpg
Looked like he was touching his secret extra gun and fantasizing about going on a power trip.. like any modern policeman ;)
tumbleweed
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Fri Mar 13 18:57:10 2015
i kinda wonder if the group will divide... would all support Rick's maniacal schemes?
McKobb
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Fri Mar 13 19:04:32 2015
It's actually loaded or appears to be. Prop or blanks?
Cherub Cow
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Fri Mar 13 22:45:41 2015
have to hope that the producers watch that pretty carefully.. and that no one on set is 27 ;)

..
"would all support Rick's maniacal schemes?"

I kind of think that Rick will do something crazy and people will feel terrible (especially Daryl), but they'll stick around because they owe him so much.. should make for crazy drama
Cherub Cow
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Mon Mar 16 07:15:21 2015
Norman coping with fandom:
http://i.imgur.com/KigSI5a.jpg
tumbleweed
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Mon Mar 16 07:21:10 2015
some Kanye concert air is selling on eBay


tonights episode pretty gruesome
Cherub Cow
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Tue Mar 17 00:49:13 2015
Awesome! Can't watch until tonight, though
The Children
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Tue Mar 17 15:40:46 2015
hm finally caught up. dunt really know what 2 say. cant really judge the new characters. seems kinda 4 real and if so, then the group turned evil.

maybe that is how he meets his end. when he turns into shane 2.0

Cherub Cow
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Wed Mar 18 21:38:16 2015
@Spend episode

(( spoiler warning ))

Wow! Amazing episode! Watched it twice in a row :D .. Some really big moments.. Poor Noah, though :( .. dolphinately gruesome.

Wondering if Sam Anderson (little boy) was saying that he needs the gun so he can kill his dad himself, or if he'd give it to his mom and let her make the choice.. not super important, though

Very cool how the show has been managing narratives. The Alexandria people have been trying to reconstruct a story of Rick's group from fragments, but now they have to interpret real circumstances. So the priest gets to give his misinterpretation of Rick's killing of the cannibals, but if Maggie doesn't try to give her version (which she seems to feel bad about, so maybe she'll let the priest's narrative stand), then Deanna Monroe might interpret the death of her son as calculated — especially because Spencer's lieutenant will probably lie about how things happened.

But Carol and Rick's becoming evil! Oh yes! :D
Seems like a terrible idea to kill the doctor, but killing dysfunctional people has become the norm, so Rick will probably find a way..

.. love this show :D
tumbleweed
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Wed Mar 18 22:26:21 2015
did they establish that the father was doing the abusing*? seems a little convenient

maybe it's the mother abusing the kid... twist!

*i need to stop doing 2 things at once when watching
McKobb
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Wed Mar 18 22:29:41 2015
She's not that hot
Cherub Cow
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Wed Mar 18 22:39:05 2015
"did they establish that the father was doing the abusing*? seems a little convenient"

Based on body language it looks that way. Like last episode's kind of poorly-directed dinner party scene where he insists on getting Rick's drink after Jessie offered to do so. Also have to trust Carol's knowledge of victimization. A twist would be fun though :D
tumbleweed
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Mon Mar 23 16:39:59 2015
latest episode

"Tempers are wearing thin. Let's just hope some robot doesn't kill everybody."

http://sta...Carl-Full-Shane-1427076171.jpg
McKobb
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Mon Mar 23 18:02:34 2015
When ypu full Shane, car takes aim
Cherub Cow
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Wed Mar 25 12:57:35 2015
*watching meow*

- lol@ them mourning by listening to NIИ? :D
- Nice that Sasha is still around; I thought that when she left the gate after the dinner party that she was leaving for good; didn't realize that the watch tower was outside the gate (oops)
- was wrong about who took Rick's gun :(
- ..guessing they've connected the "wolves are coming" person that did all that crazy stuff to Noah's town with the "W" carvings on their local zombies (W=wolves?)...

Wow@ending D:
Cherub Cow
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Wed Mar 25 13:01:19 2015
And season finale next week! Lots of intense stuff to sort through. I hope that the more sadistic of the group will inherit the town ;p
Cherub Cow
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Wed Mar 25 13:02:12 2015
..and that they can replace those windows before society collapses again ;)
Cherub Cow
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Wed Mar 25 13:27:03 2015
Someone did a nice caption for that ending :)
http://i.imgur.com/Utekbmx.jpg
The Children
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Thu Mar 26 01:10:29 2015
so long noah, we hardly get 2 know ya.

ricks gone bonckers and Oo michonne

tumbleweed
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Mon Mar 30 16:31:41 2015
-finale talk-

Daryl continues to be awesome... chain attack!
I expected more devastation though

on Talking Dead... Morgan is another Brit! and he said his character honked the horn to make sure no walkers around (rather than to attract them)
McKobb
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Mon Mar 30 17:31:10 2015
Morgan done gone little john on us!
State Department
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Tue Mar 31 04:55:10 2015
Rick.... do it.
tumbleweed
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Tue Mar 31 07:43:34 2015
"Fear the Walking Dead" promo (spin-off show)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unWdvWPmiPk
Cherub Cow
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Tue Mar 31 20:40:10 2015
@finale

Wow!! D: D: :D :D :o :o

The wolves showing up, Morgan being all super-hero-ish, priest being a screw-up ;p ... was totes nervous for Glenn and Rick, but everyone in the group really showed how awesome sauce they've become: Sasha and Glenn not killing despite having reason, Rick showing restraint, Carol being strategic/devious, Michonne being on Rick's side and deciding to return the sword to her back, Eugene and Abraham making up (♥s ;p )... so much stuff! Much finale! Very impress!

Also..
- I had been thinking that the wolves were 2 of the 3 banished townspeeps.. but the fact that the writers felt the need to have them find Aaron's photos of the town makes it seem like they wouldn't have previously known that it exists. If they did, then it's simply a reminder to them and foreshadowing for the audience.. but I don't think they did..
- Was the doctor staying in Michonne's house or something? If not, it would be pretty contrived for him to show up with the sword (that would require too much specific knowledge of other homes)..

..
Don't think I'll mind the spin-off since it'll meet the demand while Walking Dead films its next season :)
tumbleweed
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Mon Apr 06 16:09:07 2015
i don't know about how he got the sword, but like this viewer comment:

"What might of happened to carl and judith? Pete got michonnes sword which was hanging in ricks house where they showed carl and judith."

the kids being dead would be nice... especially Carl :p
Cherub Cow
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Mon Apr 06 21:53:50 2015
ohmahgerdz D:
.. that might have really happened. When the Doctor gets there, there -is- blood on the sword even before he kills Reg:
http://i.imgur.com/wcbsoRB.png
I kind of dismissed it for a continuity error (like that they had staged the blood to be there for -after- he slashed Reg). So if it's not continuity and if everyone was accounted for at the gathering, not sure who else's blood it could have been except Carl or Judith... maybe the doctor's own children? I'd suspect that the most, just because Carl&Judith were supposed to represent the future
tumbleweed
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Mon Aug 24 05:35:18 2015
Oct 11 for Walking Dead premiere


Fear the Walking Dead started tonight

i get a strong Johnny Depp vibe from the son character... probably intentional
Cherub Cow
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Tue Oct 13 19:30:09 2015
[Season 6 Premiere]

- Carol is so cool :D (thinking of that scene where she pretends that Morgan didn't just see through her charade)
- @ending: D:

Very cool start to the season! Am worried for Rick, with the son of the doctor being a bit upset that his dad isn't around to beat him anymore (a weird nostalgia, but it happens.. or he just wanted to do it himself).. and am liking that Glenn is making besties with Nicholas. That would be a great friendship, aktly :)

Too bad that Rick had to kill Carter (that was Ethan Embry, btw; from "Can't Hardly Wait"), because Morgan seemed to consider it like Rick's self-fulfilling prophecy.. like Rick maybe doesn't think that people can change and will subconsciously push them to fail. Still, not sure if Rick could have done much? The best I could think is maybe knock Carter out or have him bite a stick and then cut off his whole cheek. Otherwise it would just be a prevention thing (like Rick should have been with him, helping him with that walker), but Carter really wanted to be helpful and run ahead, so can't fault Rick for that... Rick even tried to get Carter and others to learn to fight (even if messily), so Morgan can't totally blame Rick for this outcome..

And the ending... guessing that peeps expect the Wolves to be at work, but I'd be more suspicious of insiders, like someone wanted Rick's plan to fail. To be seen, though!
McKobb
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Tue Oct 13 19:57:54 2015
Love me some Carol
tumbleweed
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Thu Oct 15 16:25:23 2015
could be Morgan making the noise :o ... but probably the Wolves

i don't recall Carl being in the episode, so still hope that he was chopped up at the end of last season and just no one cared to talk about it
tumbleweed
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Thu Oct 15 16:40:49 2015
i don't think one of the original villagers would sabotage themselves just to sabotage Rick, except maybe the boy who lost his father... since kids are awful
Cherub Cow
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Thu Oct 15 19:48:49 2015
Yeah they are! :D
I could see it being him or else maybe Carter told someone to do it in case he died. The teen makes more sense, though, just because he wouldn't realize that it was suicidal and stupid ;)

..
"i don't recall Carl being in the episode"

They showed him sitting on a gazebo roof with Enid in one of the black&white scenes while the son of dead doctor spies them from a distance. Guess he's okay ;p
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 16 01:49:35 2015
damn... well maybe Carl is the noise maker cause he's sick of all the dad jokes

http://s-m...f1f033955a7d447dbc646f7987.jpg

...apparently many think Rick pronounces it "Coral"
Cherub Cow
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Fri Oct 16 02:11:28 2015
I've even started saying it like that XD
And from above: "since Corrral's friend disappeared in the woods" :D

I mean, it probably -will- end up being the Wolves — it fits their herding style — but it seems like Rick hasn't made friends in Alexandria, and sabotaging his plan could be a way to make people hate him.
tumbleweed
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Mon Oct 19 03:40:44 2015
new episode!

smoking kills
tumbleweed
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Mon Oct 19 04:07:36 2015
Kevin Smith says it's one of the top 4 Walking Dead episodes, and top 20 episodes of all TV

...not to build it up too much or anything if you haven't seen yet
McKobb
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Mon Oct 19 04:26:14 2015
JSS
Wrath of Orion
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Mon Oct 19 04:48:48 2015
Definitely one of the best episodes they've ever done.
Cherub Cow
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Mon Oct 19 04:56:43 2015
arg! I was hoping to keep waiting until iTunes released the episodes, but sounds like I can't wait til Monday morning this time..
Cherub Cow
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Mon Oct 19 23:17:58 2015
Personally think that Kevin Smith is a useless hack who's about 10+ years removed from having a relevant opinion, so not sure if anything he has to say matters at all (I'm sure he'd respond well to -any- kind of senseless action).. But!

Very tense episode! Was basically like "D:" the entire time :D
Carol got to show how kewl she is again! Looks like she lost all her new friends, though (except the stock room person, Olivia, who knows her secret meow.. and hopefully Olivia won't shoot the next person who opens that door)... Carol seems to have secretly liked living in that homemaker world.. re-becoming the monster can hurt :'(

Was the wolves after all — oops! I wanted to believe it would be misdirection :p .. neat that there were more than just the originally-shown two. I wonder how their recruitment process works ;D

And I had to re-check the end of the first episode.. looks like Morgan snuck away after Rick killed Carter; he's not in the last two "present time" scenes with Rick and Michonne (even before the horn), which could explain his getting back to Alexandria in time to help. If not (which could be the case, since they intentionally used closer shots to hide whether or not Morgan was still there), Rick may have asked him to run back and stop the horn while everyone in the away group tried to re-herd.
Am happy that it'll be two episodes in a row of this issue; will get to see panic herding or a panic Alexandria defense :D
(btw, having Deanna Monroe get in the truck versus the tower.. probably not a good decision, though it was interesting that she had such a big reaction to a dead body.. they really were isolated from it all)

..
@"smoking kills"

I was srsly like, "wtf??" at that moment :D .. Was even trying to decide if it was really happening or was Carol's daydreaming. That scene really worked, with everything being super clean and then a crazy "W" hobo running into frame :)
tumbleweed
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Mon Oct 19 23:28:40 2015
it was like the 'Too Many Cooks' guy :p
Cherub Cow
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Mon Oct 19 23:56:22 2015
:D :D
...might have to photoshop that :D
McKobb
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Tue Oct 20 02:40:32 2015
Say who?
Cherub Cow
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Tue Oct 20 03:14:47 2015
And you've got: Too Many Cooks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrGrOK8oZG8
Wrath of Orion
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Mon Oct 26 03:49:53 2015
So apparently in the zombie apocalypse, humans lose the ability to climb chain link fences. Good to know.
McKobb
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Mon Oct 26 04:21:45 2015
Dayum
Wrath of Orion
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Mon Oct 26 04:44:21 2015
It was just shitty writing...that's what annoys me.
McKobb
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Mon Oct 26 04:46:55 2015
Scorpion and the frog, Bro.
tumbleweed
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Mon Oct 26 15:39:14 2015
Michonne did seem to be milking the suspense
tumbleweed
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Mon Oct 26 21:04:14 2015
Talking Dead episodes here for this season
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC77fce_lgbXHEOjMRSzeUfg

for last night's episode, they are holding up some hope... definitely more attached to people than i am :p
Wrath of Orion
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Mon Oct 26 21:15:16 2015
If he's not dead, it's even shittier writing. The only way it would "work" is if when Nick starting zoning, he sorta had a "what if" scenario run through his head and that's what we saw. But that would be pretty lame. I'm sure we're just going to have to chalk it up to, "Oh right, they can't climb fences. What, you could have gotten over that without any issue? Well, that's you. The one guy is a just a hardened survivor of 2 years...oh wait... Derp."
tumbleweed
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Mon Oct 26 21:23:43 2015
well it had razor wire on top & there were walkers on the other side

it did look weird like they were pulling intestines out of his upper chest so conceivably its the guy lying on top, but i don't see where he could go... i assume dead
Wrath of Orion
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Mon Oct 26 22:08:24 2015
One crappy looping of it...not enough to stop someone from climbing over. I've certainly been over similar fences.

The walkers would only stop you from jumping over. Straddling the fence is better than being eaten by walkers. And the side fence had no barbed (I don't recall it being razor, but I may not remember correctly) wire on top...just nearby vegetation.

It comes down to what is a survivor going to do...stand there and look around stupidly, or get up one of those fences? The answer is easy, unless you're a writer for The Walking Dead, apparently.
McKobb
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Tue Oct 27 04:32:18 2015
The only option, from what was shown, would be Rick's spray and pray in the RV drawing them before they get to him, assuming do-fuck was on top.
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